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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I think Marcus has raised several good questions.  I also have numerous clients from other countries who want to name someone in their home country to care for their children,
 usually a relative.  Most of the time, they aren’t willing to consider the possibility of allowing their children to stay in the US just because they don’t have anyone they trust enough to raise their children here—or they want their kids to be with family
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I moved to another country when I was 9.  Granted, it was an English-speaking country, and I was with one of my parents (my mother), but I still remember the enormous culture
 shock I experienced and how lonely I felt without my friends and familiar surroundings.  It would be so much worse without either parent.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Candace Wilkerson<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt"> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com
 <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Marcus Fry<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 11, 2020 8:33 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] US child , foreign parents<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_GoBack"></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Karl:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Having done adoptions by non-US citizens here in the US, I can tell that is not the issue, and therefore, I would expect that this would hold true for a lesser
 status as guardian.  I believe this is more of an immigration question, because the law grants the rights to the parents to name the guardian for their child.  Isn’t the question what kind of visa (if eligible at all, but I expect there is something) would
 the child be eligible to receive to go live in Germany? Moreover, you make a good point about the logistics of a minor child here in the states, but that would likely just be making sure passports are up to date for the German family to be able to travel quickly
 to the states.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">As an aside, does the child really want to go live in a completely different country?  If this event is happening, that means that child has lost both of his/her
 parents.  Sticking the child in a completely different culture that speaks a different language (I recognize English is very common in Germany) may be a lot for this child depending on his/her age.  Are there godparents to this child in the US that the child
 would rather be with to lessen the emotional impact of change?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt">Marcus J. Fry<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt">
<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Karl Flaccus<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 11, 2020 8:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] US child , foreign parents<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#0F243E">Estate planning couple are living and working here in Washington but are German citizens, and not US citizens.  They have a US born US citizen child. They wonder what would happen if they both died here and they
 name a relative in Germany as guardian.  There would be a US trust that comes from their wills to support the child.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#0F243E">What would the process be for the German relative coming to the US to pick up the US child?  Do courts get involved in making sure the foreign guardian of the child is well suited?  Would there be some determination
 of what is in the child’s best interest?  Is that for the probate court to determine?  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#0F243E">Perhaps it would make sense to name a temporary US based guardian to shepherd the child through the process of getting them well placed with family in Germany….
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#0F243E">This is more a family law question, but nevertheless an issue in the context of estate planning.  Does anyone have any insight into this? 
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#0F243E">Thank you for your thoughts, as always.
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