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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Josh & Nick,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have also done an ancillary probate in Clallam County for an Oregon resident. However, that decedent’s only Washington asset was a parking lot in downtown Seattle. I published the notice in a King County newspaper as that is the most likely place a Washington creditor would look.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Jeff Davis<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nicholas Pleasants<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 28, 2020 11:08 AM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] WA Ancillary Probate with Minor Heir- GAL needed<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Josh,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I was answering Julie’s question about an ancillary probate. In that case, the decedent was not a Washington resident, therefore the requirement of RCW 11.40.020(2) does not apply to require publication in the county of residence. The default rule is RCW 11.40.020(1)(b) that it is to be published in the county of administration. <a href="https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.40.020">https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.40.020</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Best,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Nick<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#2B6AA4'>Nicholas Pleasants</span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Pleasants Law Firm, P.S.<br>2300 130th Ave NE, Suite A-101<br>Bellevue, WA 98005-1755<br>(425) 615-7070 tel/fax<br><a href="mailto:nick@pleasantslaw.com"><span style='color:#00006A'>nick@pleasantslaw.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:black'>The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and is confidential information intended only for the use of the recipient, or any employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient. Any unauthorized use, distribution or copying of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:black'>If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the original message and all attachments from your electronic files.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> on behalf of Josh Grant <<a href="mailto:jgrant@accima.com">jgrant@accima.com</a>><br><b>Reply-To: </b>WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, May 28, 2020 at 10:24 AM<br><b>To: </b>WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [WSBAPT] WA Ancillary Probate with Minor Heir- GAL needed<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'>Nick</span><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'>I thought that when I forum shop and file in a county other than the decedent’s county of residence, that I had to publish in the county of residence. But I don’t publish in the county I file in. ??</span><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#004080'>Joshua F. Grant</span></strong><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#004080'><br></span><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'><img border=0 width=207 height=43 style='width:2.1562in;height:.4479in' id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01D634E6.F1061B40" alt=advocates></span><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'><br></span><span style='color:#004080'>P. O. Box 619<br>Wilbur, WA 99185<br>509 647 5578</span><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> Nicholas Pleasants <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> Wednesday, May 27, 2020 9:53 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> Re: [WSBAPT] WA Ancillary Probate with Minor Heir- GAL needed<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Probate Guardians ad Litem are not required in a non-intervention probate. RCW 11.76.080. The court <u>may</u> appoint one if it chooses. This tends to be a “soft” requirement in King County – e.g. they will probably just appoint one if they realize there is a minor. Since you can choose venue in any county in the state (RCW 11.96A.050(4)), this could be a case where it may be preferable to file in a county that is known for not requiring Probate GALs, all else being equal.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>When forum shopping, also consider the cost of publishing Notice to Creditors, which has to be published in the county in which you file (I just paid >$500 to publish in Mason County – that was decedent’s county of residence, so I didn’t have a choice – cf. Seattle Daily Journal only charges $120).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Also, consider that you can choose who is your probate GAL (no requirement that it come from the list). RCW 11.76.080 does not give particular guidelines to the GAL’s qualifications, just “some disinterested person.” If it’s not too complicated, you can probably find someone to approve the sale of the real estate and report to the court that the real estate was sold for a fair price and the rest of the probate is down in California. Seems like the scope of the GAL report could be sufficiently narrow to limit the cost. You can find the King County Order Appointing Limited GAL on Chad Horner’s website (<a href="https://www.kingcountyprobates.com/minor-beneficairies">https://www.kingcountyprobates.com/minor-beneficairies</a>). If the court uses the limited order, it really should not be that expensive of a GAL report. So maybe the more prudent approach is asking the court to seriously limit the GAL’s role in an effort to control costs. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#2B6AA4'>Nicholas Pleasants</span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Pleasants Law Firm, P.S.<br>2300 130th Ave NE, Suite A-101<br>Bellevue, WA 98005-1755<br>(425) 615-7070 tel/fax<br></span><span style='color:#00006A'><a href="mailto:nick@pleasantslaw.com">nick@pleasantslaw.com</a></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:black'>The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and is confidential information intended only for the use of the recipient, or any employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient. Any unauthorized use, distribution or copying of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:black'>If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the original message and all attachments from your electronic files.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> on behalf of Julie Martiniello <<a href="mailto:julie@dimensionlaw.com">julie@dimensionlaw.com</a>><br><b>Reply-To: </b>WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 2:14 PM<br><b>To: </b>Trust and Probate Section <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>[WSBAPT] WA Ancillary Probate with Minor Heir- GAL needed</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Hello All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I have my first experience with an ancillary probate with a minor heir. California probate, one property in WA that is being sold and probate is being required here for that. I know the probate process is not really "ancillary" here, but will the minor heir need a GAL here in WA since the main probate is in CA? Hoping to avoid that expense/complication for the client.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Thanks in advance for your knowledge! <br clear=all><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#666666'>Respectfully,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#666666'><br></span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#666666'>J</span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#666666'>ULIE</span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:#666666'> </span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#666666'>A. 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