<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Listserv,</div><div><br></div><div>I will attempt to clarify some points (and thank you all so much for the responses!)</div><div><ol><li>Maintenance contract was entered into approximately 10 years ago.</li><li>The children are the age of majority now, but under age 28.</li></ol><div>If I am understanding correctly from the group, then it appears that the estate could pursue this claim and convert it into a judgment.<br></div></div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr"><table style="background:none;font-family:Georgia,Times,serif;font-size:16px;color:rgb(60,63,68)" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;padding-top:5px"><img src="http://dev.letsconstellate.com/nwll/nwll-logo-color-small.png" style="width:90px;height:72.5px;padding:0px 18px 0px 0px" width="90" height="72"></td><td><table><tbody><tr><td style="font-weight:600;color:rgb(0,37,84);line-height:19px;padding-top:3px"><font face="georgia, serif">Jakob O. Seegmuller</font></td></tr><tr><td style="color:rgb(0,37,84);line-height:19px"><font face="georgia, serif">Attorney</font></td></tr><tr><td><font face="georgia, serif"><a href="http://nwlegacylaw.com/" style="color:rgb(108,112,120);line-height:18px" target="_blank">nwlegacylaw.com</a> | 360-975-7770</font></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 12:16 PM Kerry Richards <<a href="mailto:krichards@lawgate.net" target="_blank">krichards@lawgate.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">Dear Marcus:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:0.5in"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">I understood from Jakob’s inquiry that the deceased was the obligee, or recipient of the support while the now adult children were
under the age of 18. The support was not timely paid during their minority. I think the easiest way is for the administrator to pursue the judgment, but the adult children may also have a cause of action. The difference is, they will have to file a separate
action and pursue the monies owed and could get into the details of what was or was not paid. The administrator can do this in more of a summary fashion. Just my thinking.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Marcus Fry<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 28, 2020 11:50 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Estate of Decedent Owed Child Support from Former Spouse<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">Just for clarification, are you saying the deceased parent is the obligee of child support for adult children? Don’t the adult children possess the right to
recover child support now that they are adults?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kerry Richards<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 28, 2020 11:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Estate of Decedent Owed Child Support from Former Spouse<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">There should be a distinction between the ongoing obligation to provide support and past due support. I gather from your facts that child support is not an
ongoing obligation, but rather there is an arrearage. If so, then the administrator should file in Superior court a Motion to convert the previous unpaid support to a judgment and then garnish or collect in the best way possible. The past due obligation did
not die with the obligee, and often in orders of child support the can agree the obligation will survive the death of the
<b>obligor,</b> and to the extent not paid can be a claim against the deceased obligor’s estate.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">In your case the obligee died, but the past due amount plus simple interest (calculated on every month not paid, so the oldest month owing will have the greatest
amount of simple interest (at 12%) added to the underlying obligation. The support becomes a judgment after each month it is not paid. The motion would be to Confirm the judgment.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Marcus Fry<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 28, 2020 10:58 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Estate of Decedent Owed Child Support from Former Spouse<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">I haven’t heard of this, but doesn’t child support belong to the children (who are now adults) not the parent (decedent)? I believe the statutory recovery
period is 10 years from the date that the last child turns 18, but I don’t have the cite.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jake Seegmuller<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 28, 2020 10:48 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Estate of Decedent Owed Child Support from Former Spouse<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We are administering an estate in Washington with relatively modest assets. The Decedent left two adult sons as heirs. No estate planning was done at the time of her passing. Decedent was owed Child Support well over $100,000 by her former
spouse. A call into DCS with the assigned agent suggested that the debt "dies" with the person who requested the child support. Is this correct? And if not what remedies can the estate take to collect on these owed claims, if any?<u></u><u></u></p>
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