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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue">Ok, so a bit more detail. I will not get waivers from heirs because they want no part of this, intestate probate, where all assets were community property, spouse is sole beneficiary, and estate
is insolvent (over $100,000 in IRS debt). Heirs will either get the 30-day notice if we file the Declaration of Completion, or the 20-day notice if we close by Decree of Distribution.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue">The estate is insolvent, and I’m wondering if there is something about closing with a Decree of Distribution that provides a bit more protection for my PR from the unpaid creditors, than filing
by Declaration of Completion of Probate which states creditors “have been paid or otherwise disposed of by agreement of the Creditor.” Most of the creditors released their claim, but I have 3 creditors who have verbally indicated they will not release their
claim but will put the debt in an uncollectible status and not pursue collection.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue">I want to do this in the most economical way possible, but also want to give the PR the best protections. PR retained nonintervention powers through insolvency. I don’t think there is anything
more I get for the PR by closing with a Decree of Distribution rather than a Declaration of Completion of Probate, but I would be able to explain the creditor situation. If, however, I do use the Decree of Distribution I then need to know whether Notice of
Hearing must be published. If so, that argues more for just closing the estate with a Declaration of Completion of Probate.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">
wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Neumiller<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 11, 2020 3:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Decree of Distribution vs. Declaration of Completion of Probate<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">By publication? That was the question. I am also interested in the answer because I have either had all of the beneficiaries waive the notice or give them notice by mail.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 11, 2020 2:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif">When the estate beneficiaries are provided a Final Receipt that states that they have received their full distributive share of the estate, they waive claims against the PR and
against the estate, etc.... just include in that document a waiver of notice of the filing of the Declaration of Completion, and a waiver of right to request an accounting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif">If all beneficiaries have waived notice, then you can just go ahead and file the Declaration of Completion. Otherwise, yes, a Notice of Filing of Declaration of Completion is
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:09 PM Jeanne Dawes <<a href="mailto:jjdawes@goregrewe.com">jjdawes@goregrewe.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I have had feedback from some attorneys who have indicated notice by publication is not required if a PR has nonintervention powers, and elects to close the estate using one of the two alternative decrees
set out in RCW 11.68.100, (one without accounting, one with). The publication requirement set out in RCW 11.76.040 (which is how RCW 11.68.100(2) specifies notice is to be given)
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I’ve read two articles, which may be from the same source, one was the 10</span><sup><span style="font-size:8.0pt">th</span></sup><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> Annual KCBC Probate CLE on closing probate,
and one on the KCBC website about how to close probate – both of which indicated that if you have nonintervention powers and elect to close using one of the two petition methods in RCW 11.68.100, you must give 20-day notice by both mailing and publication
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On the other hand RCW 11.68.090(1) addressing the powers of PR with nonintervention powers, states “. . . a PR acting under nonintervention powers may exercise the powers granted to a PR under chapter 11.76
RCW [Settlement of Estates without nonintervention powers] <u>but is not obligated to comply with the duties imposed on PRs by that chapter.</u>” (I’m not sure whether this includes the duty to give notice.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">So, my question is – Must you give 20-day notice by publication when using one of the alternative decrees authorized in RCW 11.68.100, when your PR has been granted nonintervention powers?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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