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<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Llewellyn<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 13, 2020 12:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Attorney as Alternate PR?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I too have been the administrator of estates, or co-administrator when the named PR isn’t bondable. Like Karl, I only do it when it’s absolutely necessary.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The thing to be aware of is you can’t charge attorney fees/rates when you are merely the PR. You get paid at the rate personal representatives are paid in the “<i><u>Greater
Puget Sound Area”</u></i>, or some similar language. When I am PR, I usually charge $100 per hour for estate administration.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">And you probably shouldn’t be your own legal counsel.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Karl Flaccus<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 13, 2020 12:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Attorney as Alternate PR?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#0F243E">I almost never do this, but I have on rare occasions where the person is stuck, in that they don’t have family, or they don’t want to use an agency or company. I have had
been appointed PR in these rare circumstances by commissioners in Seattle when starting the probate.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Inge Fordham<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 13, 2020 12:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Attorney as Alternate PR?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Listmates,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Client has a question as to whether an attorney may be listed as the alternate personal representative in her will. I’ve never run into this question. Off the top of my head, I don’t see a problem with it.
Is there a prohibition I’m not aware of?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks in advance,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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