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also thank you - the stories are easier to remember đ Kate</div>
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On a similar note, a daughter running a business conned her mom into getting a credit card and used it to buy inventory. Mom died and credit card company called daughter who told me and I called and said these were not daughterâs charges but motherâs investment.
Cannot recall whether there were two cards or one, but anyway when I talked to the collection I explained these were momâs charges and he said oh yeah they were all online charges and I said sure mom was very intelligent and computer savvy, and I politely
invited him to send me anything that daughter had signed showing why she is obligated on momâs card. Never heard again. Not a community property issue but you have to call their bluff.</p>
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<b>From:</b> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kate Love<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 1, 2020 9:25 AM<br>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">ha, interesting - thank you, Kate</span></p>
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<b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">
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One war story I will pass on. If the decedent owes money on a credit card, make sure the surviving spouse does NOT use the card post-mortem. I had that happen. The bank hadnât filed a creditor claim, so after the two years expired we let them know we would
not be paying the card off. Well they took the position because the surviving spouse had used it in a community property state it was her obligation. They reported the card to the credit bureau just as she was trying to close on a home loan, holding up the
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<b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alexis Singletary<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 31, 2020 5:31 PM<br>
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<span style="color:#000099">100%.</span></p>
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<span style="color:#000099">I have won that issue on Summary Judgment where the âPRâ was served a creditorâs claim and quiet title action before the PR was actually appointed. We sent the Notice to Creditors to all parties formally for actual notice. They
of course didnât respond because they believed they already filed a claim. Not my job to tell them they didnât perfect service because there was no PR to serve. Laid in wait until the end of the creditorâs claim period and rejected. Creditor filed suit;
I filed my SJ. </span></p>
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<span style="color:#000099">Fun one. </span></p>
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<span style="color:#000099">In yours, since no PR will actually be appointed, just ignore and see if any creditor does it themselves. If not, ride out the 2 years and see what happens.
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<b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 31, 2020 3:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv' <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] creditor claims filed in will only matter</p>
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Definitely agree with Eric. </p>
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<b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 31, 2020 3:29 PM<br>
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I like your thinking. Iâm willing to ignore them. I agree with the idea that they should be able to figure out that a probate has not been commenced and therefore their creditor claim is useless.</p>
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<b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Eric Nelsen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 31, 2020 2:38 PM<br>
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I'd say ignore them. If no probate has been started with a PR appointed, and no "notice agent" under Ch. 11.42 RCW has been created, then there is no basis for creditor claims. If they want to file a claim, they can go start a probate themselves. Claims sent
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Franklyâand this is me being orneryâI also would not even respond to AmEx. If a company that big can't figure out what is and isn't proper, I see no reason to help them.</p>
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Iâve written about this matter before. This is the estate that is insolvent with $97,000 in debts. After the last round of answers to my question about how to handle this estate, my client decided to ride out the 24 month period and ignore the claims. Some
of you gave me great answers and advice. However, American Express, in which the decedent had three accounts totally about $18.,44, has mailed me three creditor claims. I filed the will as required as a Will Only case with a cover sheet that had my name on
it. (my first mistake). So, American Express has sent me three creditor claims to the case number of the will only filing. Am I required to answer these creditor claims? Should I reject them and say that the case is insolvent? But that would require filing
the claims which implies that a probate has begun, wouldnât it? Or, could I reject them saying that the estate is insolvent and no probate will be begun? Should I say that no probate has begun or will be begun in a letter to the agent who sent me the creditor
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As far as I can tell, the creditor claims have not be filed in the Will Only matter. At least they are not on Odyssey Portal. There is no filed stamp on them.
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I could use some thoughts from any of you.</p>
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Thank you.</p>
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