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<p class="MsoNormal">For some reason I have always delayed having the PR sign an affidavit until after the 4 months is done...but on reading the statute I'm not sure that is required. Is there other authority that implies that the review of decedent's papers
must continue through the entire 4-month period?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Reading RCW 11.40.040, the time frame seems to hinge on for how long "correspondence received after the date of death" has to be reviewed before the PR can file her/his affidavit. I think a month post-death might be the minimum, to catch
monthly bills. But some utilities bill only every other month. So maybe two months, or three months in case there's something that's quarterly? In which case maybe 4 months is just prudent.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">RCW <a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.40.040"><span style="color:#7DAB8A">11.40.040</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">"Reasonably ascertainable" creditor</span></b><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">—</span></b><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Definition</span></b><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">—</span></b><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Reasonable
diligence</span></b><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">—</span></b><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Presumptions</span></b><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">—</span></b><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Petition
for order.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in;background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">(1) For purposes of RCW <a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.40.051"><b><span style="color:#7DAB8A">11.40.051</span></b></a>,
a "reasonably ascertainable" creditor of the decedent is one that the personal representative would discover upon exercise of reasonable diligence. The personal representative is deemed to have
<span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">exercised reasonable diligence upon conducting a reasonable review of the decedent's correspondence, including correspondence received after the date of death</span>, and financial records, including personal
financial statements, loan documents, checkbooks, bank statements, and income tax returns, that are in the possession of or reasonably available to the personal representative.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in;background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">(2) If the personal representative conducts the review, the personal representative is presumed to have exercised reasonable
diligence to ascertain creditors of the decedent and any creditor not ascertained in the review is presumed not reasonably ascertainable within the meaning of RCW <a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.40.051"><b><span style="color:#7DAB8A">11.40.051</span></b></a>.
These presumptions may be rebutted only by clear, cogent, and convincing evidence.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in;background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">(3) The personal representative may evidence the review and resulting presumption by filing with the court an affidavit
regarding the facts referred to in this section. The personal representative may petition the court for an order declaring that the personal representative has made a review and that any creditors not known to the personal representative are not reasonably
ascertainable. The petition must be filed under RCW <a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.96A.080"><b><span style="color:#7DAB8A">11.96A.080</span></b></a> and the notice specified under RCW <a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.96A.110"><b><span style="color:#7DAB8A">11.96A.110</span></b></a> must
also be given by publication.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">[ <a href="http://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/1999-00/Pdf/Bills/Session%20Laws/Senate/5196.SL.pdf?cite=1999%20c%2042%20%C2%A7%20607;"><b><span style="color:#7DAB8A">1999
c 42 § 607;</span></b></a> <a href="http://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/1997-98/Pdf/Bills/Session%20Laws/Senate/5110-S.SL.pdf?cite=1997%20c%20252%20%C2%A7%2010;"><b><span style="color:#7DAB8A">1997 c 252 § 10;</span></b></a> <a href="http://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/1993-94/Pdf/Bills/Session%20Laws/House/2270-S.SL.pdf?cite=1994%20c%20221%20%C2%A7%2028;"><b><span style="color:#7DAB8A">1994
c 221 § 28;</span></b></a> <a href="http://leg.wa.gov/CodeReviser/documents/sessionlaw/1974ex1c117.pdf?cite=1974%20ex.s.%20c%20117%20%C2%A7%2036;"><b><span style="color:#7DAB8A">1974 ex.s. c 117 § 36;</span></b></a> <a href="http://leg.wa.gov/CodeReviser/documents/sessionlaw/1965c145.pdf?cite=1965%20c%20145%20%C2%A7%2011.40.040."><b><span style="color:#7DAB8A">1965
c 145 § 11.40.040.</span></b></a> Prior: <a href="http://leg.wa.gov/CodeReviser/documents/sessionlaw/1917c156.pdf?cite=1917%20c%20156%20%C2%A7%20110;"><b><span style="color:#7DAB8A">1917 c 156 § 110;</span></b></a> RRS § 1480; prior: Code 1881 § 1470; <a href="http://leg.wa.gov/CodeReviser/Pages/session_laws.aspx?cite=1854%20p%20281%20%C2%A7%2083."><b><span style="color:#7DAB8A">1854
p 281 § 83.</span></b></a>]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John J. Sullivan, Esq.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 1, 2020 4:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv' <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Is This Creditor Ascertainable?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Listmates:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have a hypothetical question that came close to being a real practice question today.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Say you publish notice to creditors. Then a creditor you didn’t know about contacts your client say four days before the four month period ends. Does that creditor become ascertainable, entitled to a letter and 30 period just because of
that late phone call or letter to the client? Or can you count down the four days?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I say hypothetical because in my particular case it’s hard to argue the home care services were not provided to the decedent the month before he died, even though he and his AIF fired them a few weeks before he died.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Has this come up before? I guess if you boil it down, the question is whether ascertainability is determined at the time notice is published, or any time before the four months expires. I assume if you find out after the four months it’s
not retroactive. But I think I’m leaning in the direction of saying the creditor in my hypothetical becomes ascertainable because the due diligence declaration, if you file one, is made after the four months expires.
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