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<p class="MsoNormal">Greetings Josh:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Seems unlikely that the creditor would go after enforcing the card agreement for the amount in question. That said, I don’t know if the CP argument holds water. Though the case is old, I believe it is still good law:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">“Normal, legitimate recreational activities on the part of either spouse are not only not harmful, but they promote and advance the general welfare of the community, and the use of [property] for that purpose by one spouse, even if the
other one is not present, is using it for the good of the marital community.” <i>
King v. Williams</i>, 188 Wash. 350, 351, 62 P.2d 710 (1936).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Just my $.02.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Josh Grant<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 30, 2020 11:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ron@housh.org; WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Separate debt - community property question<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black">I am handling an estate with W as survivor. She didn’t know anything about a Cabela’s credit card with $2000+. If they file a creditor’s claim, I am thinking about rejecting it as not enforceable
against community assets. Presumably sporting goods bought by a H (without W’s knowledge) is not a community benefit??</span><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black"> Thursday, January 30, 2020 9:09 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black"> Re: [WSBAPT] Separate debt - community
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Thanks to all that have chimed in – very helpful.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Obviously the safest approach is to have both spouses sign.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">But it seems if there is community benefit then one spouse can bind the community even without the knowledge of the other spouse.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Seems the community – H or W – would have a hard time later arguing that there is no community benefit where the project is a high end residential home for H and W notwithstanding the fact title is in an LLC in
which H may own the LLC as his separate property??<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Martin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 29, 2020 4:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv' <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Separate debt - community property question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">The almost certainty of creating community debts is particularly lethal with IRS and DOR debts for trust fund taxes, assessed against a spouse that operates a business and liened in the name of the managing spouse
and the other spouse without respect to whether or not the non managing spouse had any idea the other was racking up big debts. The theory is community benefit. T<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Eric Nelsen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 29, 2020 2:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Separate debt - community property question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Yes, you are definitely right to be concerned.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">From WSBA Community Property Deskbook Ch. 6.2:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";color:black;background:white">The power to create a community obligation also does not require knowledge on the part of the other spouse.
<i>Capital Nat’l Bank v. Johns</i>, </span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=170+Wash.+250&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook" target="_new"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";background:white">170
Wash. 250</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";color:black;background:white">,
</span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=16+P.2d+452&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook" target="_new"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";background:white">16
P.2d 452</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";color:black;background:white"> (1932);
<i>Gould v. Culver</i>, </span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=148+Wash.+689&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook" target="_new"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";background:white">148
Wash. 689</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";color:black;background:white">,
</span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=270+P.+93&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook" target="_new"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";background:white">270
P. 93</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";color:black;background:white"> (1928). The obligation must not be a gift. It must be created with the expectation to produce a “community benefit.”
<i>Beyers v. Moore</i>, </span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=45+Wn.2d+68&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook" target="_new"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";background:white">45
Wn.2d 68</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";color:black;background:white">,
</span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=272+P.2d+626&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook" target="_new"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";background:white">272
P.2d 626</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";color:black;background:white"> (1954);
<i>Sun Life Assurance Co. v. Outler</i>, </span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=172+Wash.+540&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook" target="_new"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";background:white">172
Wash. 540</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";color:black;background:white">,
</span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=20+P.2d+1110&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook" target="_new"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";background:white">20
P.2d 1110</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";color:black;background:white"> (1933). The community obligation exists even if the anticipated benefit is not realized.
<i>Beyers</i>, </span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=45+Wn.2d+68&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook" target="_new"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";background:white">45
Wn.2d 68</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";color:black;background:white">;
<i>Way v. Lyric Theater Co.</i>, </span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=79+Wash.+275&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook" target="_new"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";background:white">79
Wash. 275</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";color:black;background:white">,
</span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=140+P.+320&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook" target="_new"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";background:white">140
P. 320</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";color:black;background:white"> (1914). Although the presumption of community obligation is rebuttable, it is becoming increasingly difficult to rebut it, as discussions
of particular types of obligations will indicate.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">BUT from Ch. 6.2(2)(c):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";color:black;background:white">In the absence of a community benefit, guarantees, accommodation endorsements, and suretyship contracts are ineffective
to create community liability. <i>Potlatch Fed. Credit Union v. Kennedy</i>, </span>
<span style="color:black"><a href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=76+Wn.2d+806&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook" target="_new"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";background:white">76
Wn.2d 806</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";color:black;background:white">,
</span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=459+P.2d+32&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook" target="_new"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";background:white">459
P.2d 32</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";color:black;background:white"> (1969). Even a holder in due course may not recover against community property.
<i>Peterson v. Zimmerman</i>, </span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=142+Wash.+385&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook" target="_new"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";background:white">142
Wash. 385</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";color:black;background:white">,
</span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=253+P.+642&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook" target="_new"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";background:white">253
P. 642</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";color:black;background:white"> (1927);
<i>Gund v. Parke</i>, </span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=15+Wash.+393&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook" target="_new"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";background:white">15
Wash. 393</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";color:black;background:white">,
</span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=46+P.+408&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook" target="_new"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";background:white">46
P. 408</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";color:black;background:white"> (1896). Absent community benefit, an accommodation endorsement by one spouse constitutes an attempt to give community credit—an act ineffective
without the consent of both spouses. RCW </span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Revised_Code/browse?ci=14&codesec=26.16.030&title=26&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook" target="_new"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";background:white">26.16.030</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";color:black;background:white">(2);
<i>Nichols Hills Bank v. McCool</i>, </span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=104+Wn.2d+78&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook" target="_new"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";background:white">104
Wn.2d 78</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";color:black;background:white">,
</span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=701+P.2d+1114&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook" target="_new"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";background:white">701
P.2d 1114</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman-Roman";color:black;background:white"> (1985). In
<i>Nichols Hills Bank</i>, the court also refused to allow the beneficiary of a unilateral spousal guarantee to reach the obligated spouse’s half interest in the couple’s community property.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">I think, representing the contractor, I would advise the client to require that
<b><i>both</i></b> spouses sign the personal guarantee jointly and severally. That would potentially subject all community and both spouse's separate property. Or, at the very least have the husband sign as separately liable and the wife sign to confirm community
liability (but not her separate liability). You would want the community liable as a whole, not just 50%, I would think. It gets very messy trying to figure out what "50% community liability" even means in reference to a specific asset to be attached/garnished/foreclosed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">As a matter of security for the contractor, it makes no sense to give the community any defense based on the separate/community distinction.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Eric<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Eric C. Nelsen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Sayre Law Offices, PLLC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">1417 31st Ave South<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Seattle WA 98144-3909<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">206-625-0092<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:eric@sayrelawoffices.com">eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Housh<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 29, 2020 12:40 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Separate debt - community property question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">LLC owns real estate and has contracted to build a home.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Contractor wants husband to sign a personal guaranty guarantying payment owed to contractor.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Husband wants to sign “John Doe – In His Individual Capacity on behalf of his Separate Property”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">I represent contractor. I had asked that he sign “John Doe – In His Individual Capacity on behalf of his Separate Property and his 50% interest in community property.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">My concern is that Husband John Doe may not have any liquid separate property.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Am I correct in being concerned that if Husband signs “John Doe – In His Individual Capacity on behalf of his Separate Property” and the LLC defaults on payments and John Doe has no liquid separate property, Contractor
may not be able to recover against John Doe – Husband’s interest in community property??<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Bar exam type question???<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:red">I AM TYPICALLY IN THE SEATTLE OFFICE ON TUESDAY AND THURSDAY AND IN THE MOUNT VERNON OFFICE ON MONDAY, WEDNESDAY AND FRIDAY
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Ronald G. Housh, P.S.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Attorney at Law<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Seattle Office:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">1420 Fifth Avenue, Suite 3000<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Seattle, WA 98101-2393<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Phone: 206-381-1341<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Fax: 206-464-0461<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Email:
<a href="mailto:ron@housh.org">ron@housh.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Mount Vernon Office:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">21411 Bluejay Place<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Mount Vernon, WA 98274<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Phone: 206-235-2459<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Email:
<a href="mailto:ron@housh.org">ron@housh.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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