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<DIV><FONT size=4>I am handling an estate with W as survivor. She didn’t
know anything about a Cabela’s credit card with $2000+. If they file a
creditor’s claim, I am thinking about rejecting it as not enforceable against
community assets. Presumably sporting goods bought by a H (without W’s
knowledge) is not a community benefit??</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=ron@housh.org>Ron Housh</A>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 30, 2020 9:09 AM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [WSBAPT] Separate debt - community property
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<P class=MsoNormal>Thanks to all that have chimed in – very
helpful.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Obviously the safest approach is to have both spouses
sign.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>But it seems if there is community benefit then one spouse
can bind the community even without the knowledge of the other
spouse.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Seems the community – H or W – would have a hard time later
arguing that there is no community benefit where the project is a high end
residential home for H and W notwithstanding the fact title is in an LLC in
which H may own the LLC as his separate property??<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B>From:</B> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com
<wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com> <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Martin<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 29, 2020 4:47 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv'
<wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [WSBAPT] Separate debt
- community property question<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>The almost certainty of creating community debts is
particularly lethal with IRS and DOR debts for trust fund taxes, assessed
against a spouse that operates a business and liened in the name of the managing
spouse and the other spouse without respect to whether or not the non managing
spouse had any idea the other was racking up big debts. The theory is
community benefit. T<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B>From:</B> <A>wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</A> <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Eric Nelsen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 29, 2020 2:38
PM<BR><B>To:</B> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv
<<A>wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</A>><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [WSBAPT]
Separate debt - community property question<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Yes, you are definitely right to be concerned.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>From WSBA Community Property Deskbook Ch. 6.2:<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: black'>The
power to create a community obligation also does not require knowledge on the
part of the other spouse. <I>Capital Nat’l Bank v. Johns</I>, </SPAN><A
href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=170+Wash.+250&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook"
target=_new><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white'>170
Wash. 250</SPAN></A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: black'>,
</SPAN><A
href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=16+P.2d+452&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook"
target=_new><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white'>16
P.2d 452</SPAN></A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: black'>
(1932); <I>Gould v. Culver</I>, </SPAN><A
href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=148+Wash.+689&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook"
target=_new><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white'>148
Wash. 689</SPAN></A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: black'>,
</SPAN><A
href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=270+P.+93&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook"
target=_new><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white'>270
P. 93</SPAN></A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: black'>
(1928). The obligation must not be a gift. It must be created with the
expectation to produce a “community benefit.” <I>Beyers v. Moore</I>, </SPAN><A
href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=45+Wn.2d+68&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook"
target=_new><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white'>45
Wn.2d 68</SPAN></A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: black'>,
</SPAN><A
href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=272+P.2d+626&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook"
target=_new><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white'>272
P.2d 626</SPAN></A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: black'>
(1954); <I>Sun Life Assurance Co. v. Outler</I>, </SPAN><A
href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=172+Wash.+540&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook"
target=_new><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white'>172
Wash. 540</SPAN></A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: black'>,
</SPAN><A
href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=20+P.2d+1110&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook"
target=_new><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white'>20
P.2d 1110</SPAN></A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: black'>
(1933). The community obligation exists even if the anticipated benefit is not
realized. <I>Beyers</I>, </SPAN><A
href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=45+Wn.2d+68&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook"
target=_new><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white'>45
Wn.2d 68</SPAN></A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: black'>;
<I>Way v. Lyric Theater Co.</I>, </SPAN><A
href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=79+Wash.+275&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook"
target=_new><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white'>79
Wash. 275</SPAN></A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: black'>,
</SPAN><A
href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=140+P.+320&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook"
target=_new><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white'>140
P. 320</SPAN></A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: black'>
(1914). Although the presumption of community obligation is rebuttable, it is
becoming increasingly difficult to rebut it, as discussions of particular types
of obligations will indicate.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>BUT from Ch. 6.2(2)(c):<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: black'>In
the absence of a community benefit, guarantees, accommodation endorsements, and
suretyship contracts are ineffective to create community liability. <I>Potlatch
Fed. Credit Union v. Kennedy</I>, </SPAN><A
href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=76+Wn.2d+806&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook"
target=_new><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white'>76
Wn.2d 806</SPAN></A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: black'>,
</SPAN><A
href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=459+P.2d+32&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook"
target=_new><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white'>459
P.2d 32</SPAN></A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: black'>
(1969). Even a holder in due course may not recover against community property.
<I>Peterson v. Zimmerman</I>, </SPAN><A
href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=142+Wash.+385&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook"
target=_new><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white'>142
Wash. 385</SPAN></A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: black'>,
</SPAN><A
href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=253+P.+642&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook"
target=_new><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white'>253
P. 642</SPAN></A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: black'>
(1927); <I>Gund v. Parke</I>, </SPAN><A
href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=15+Wash.+393&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook"
target=_new><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white'>15
Wash. 393</SPAN></A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: black'>,
</SPAN><A
href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=46+P.+408&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook"
target=_new><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white'>46
P. 408</SPAN></A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: black'>
(1896). Absent community benefit, an accommodation endorsement by one spouse
constitutes an attempt to give community credit—an act ineffective without the
consent of both spouses. RCW </SPAN><A
href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Revised_Code/browse?ci=14&codesec=26.16.030&title=26&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook"
target=_new><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white'>26.16.030</SPAN></A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: black'>(2);
<I>Nichols Hills Bank v. McCool</I>, </SPAN><A
href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=104+Wn.2d+78&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook"
target=_new><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white'>104
Wn.2d 78</SPAN></A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: black'>,
</SPAN><A
href="http://links.casemakerlegal.com/states/WA/books/Case_Law/results?ci=14&search%5bCite%5d=701+P.2d+1114&fn=Washington%20Community%20Property%20Deskbook"
target=_new><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white'>701
P.2d 1114</SPAN></A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman-Roman"; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: black'>
(1985). In <I>Nichols Hills Bank</I>, the court also refused to allow the
beneficiary of a unilateral spousal guarantee to reach the obligated spouse’s
half interest in the couple’s community property.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I think, representing the contractor, I would advise the
client to require that <B><I>both</I></B> spouses sign the personal guarantee
jointly and severally. That would potentially subject all community and both
spouse's separate property. Or, at the very least have the husband sign as
separately liable and the wife sign to confirm community liability (but not her
separate liability). You would want the community liable as a whole, not just
50%, I would think. It gets very messy trying to figure out what "50% community
liability" even means in reference to a specific asset to be
attached/garnished/foreclosed.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>As a matter of security for the contractor, it makes no sense
to give the community any defense based on the separate/community
distinction.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Eric<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Eric C. Nelsen<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Sayre Law Offices, PLLC<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>1417 31st Ave South<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Seattle WA 98144-3909<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>206-625-0092<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><A>eric@sayrelawoffices.com</A><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B>From:</B> <A>wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</A>
<<A>wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</A>> <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ron
Housh<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 29, 2020 12:40 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'WSBA
Probate & Trust Listserv'
<<A>wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</A>><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [WSBAPT]
Separate debt - community property question<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>LLC owns real estate and has contracted to build a
home.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Contractor wants husband to sign a personal guaranty
guarantying payment owed to contractor.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Husband wants to sign “John Doe – In His Individual Capacity
on behalf of his Separate Property”<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>I represent contractor. I had asked that he sign “John
Doe – In His Individual Capacity on behalf of his Separate Property and his 50%
interest in community property.”<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>My concern is that Husband John Doe may not have any liquid
separate property. <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Am I correct in being concerned that if Husband signs “John
Doe – In His Individual Capacity on behalf of his Separate Property” and the LLC
defaults on payments and John Doe has no liquid separate property, Contractor
may not be able to recover against John Doe – Husband’s interest in community
property??<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Bar exam type question???<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Ron<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: red'>I AM
TYPICALLY IN THE SEATTLE OFFICE ON TUESDAY AND THURSDAY AND IN THE MOUNT VERNON
OFFICE ON MONDAY, WEDNESDAY AND FRIDAY <o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'>Ronald G. Housh,
P.S.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'>Attorney at
Law<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'>Seattle
Office:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'>1420 Fifth Avenue, Suite
3000<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'>Seattle, WA
98101-2393<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'>Phone:
206-381-1341<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'>Fax:
206-464-0461<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'>Email:
</SPAN></B><A><B><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'>ron@housh.org</SPAN></B></A><B><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN></B> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'>Mount Vernon
Office:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'>21411 Bluejay
Place<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'>Mount Vernon, WA
98274<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'>Phone:
206-235-2459<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'>Email:
</SPAN></B><A><B><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'>ron@housh.org</SPAN></B></A><B><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'><o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
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