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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Thank you Mark and Marcus for responding!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Full disclosure: I am also the title officer in the County where the real estate is located. I consulted myself and am not entirely satisfied with the answer, as this is the first time I have run into this scenario. </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Apple Color Emoji"'>😊</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Underwriting counsel is getting back to me about this, but I figured that some of you have a lot more experience in this area. Mark, your thoughts are also what I came up with, but push-back from Guardian’s attorney had me second-guessing myself.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Jennifer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='color:black'>WSBA ProbateTrust List <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com> on behalf of Mark Vohr <mcv@ohanafc.com><br><b>Reply-To: </b>WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br><b>Date: </b>Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 1:49 PM<br><b>To: </b>WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [WSBAPT] Guardianship question<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Jennifer:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> A couple of thoughts.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Since you are dealing with In Rem jurisdiction, it would seem that Washington law applies to the entire sale transaction of real property. That would also mean Washington guardianship law since it would be a guardian signing the paperwork, similar to the application of Washington probate law in ancillary probates where the PR signs the paperwork. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>You may also wish to check with a title company. In a recent case we were working on, title required a court signed “Confirmation of Sale” which as you know is a requirement under Washington’s guardianship statutes before a guardian is authorized to execute the documents of transfer. Title took the position that the confirmation of sale is the final authority for the transfer, which ensures we have an unbroken chain of title.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> So – if it were me doing this, I would register the guardianship in WA and fully adhere to the procedures under RCW 11.92.110 - .125.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Hope that helps. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Regards, </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Mark</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Mark C. Vohr</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Ohana Fiduciary Corp.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Ohana Financial Services</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>A Washington Trust Company</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Mark C. Vohr, J.D., CPG, Principal</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>PO Box 33710 Seattle, WA 98133</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>T: (206) 782-1189 F: (206) 782-1434</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>mcv@ohanafc.com www.ohanafc.com</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jennifer Johnson<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 18, 2019 12:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br><b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Guardianship question</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Hello all,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I’m hoping someone can provide some brief guidance on the following guardianship scenario/question:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Letters of Guardianship/Conservatorship were recently issued in October in Clatsop County, Oregon. The Order authorizing the issuance of the Letters provides for appointment of guardian and conservator of the protected person, and says, “as guardian, <i>[Guardian]</i>, shall have all the powers and duties of a guardian under Oregon law”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Protected person owns real estate in Washington and she lived there until a couple years ago when she moved to an assisted living facility in Oregon. Guardian wants to sell the Washington real estate.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>In order to sell the real estate, my brief research seems to say that an out of state guardianship should be registered in the appropriate county in Washington state. I’m assuming that would be the county in which the real estate is located. What I’m not sure of is whether the Guardian needs to get a court order specifically authorizing the sale of the property or if it is included in the ‘powers and duties of a guardian under Oregon law’? Guardian says no because the real estate is no longer the protected person’s primary residence, and that is the only scenario in which an additional court order would be necessary.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Any insight would be much appreciated.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Thank you,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Jennifer</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><i>Jennifer M. 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