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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 17, 2019 11:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] "Lack of Probate Affidavit" & QCD</font>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#993366">Thanks, John. We will redact and use the form in appropriate cases.</span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John McCrady<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 14, 2019 10:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] "Lack of Probate Affidavit" & QCD</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">Uniformity would be nice for some purposes, but our form (I attach a copy for your consideration) contains information that I would not want to put of record.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">I may consider recording our form, after redaction, which is an idea I haven’t considered before.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">Puget Sound Title Company</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">5350 Orchard Street West</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">University Place WA 98467</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">253-476-5721</span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Roger Hawkes<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 14, 2019 9:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] "Lack of Probate Affidavit" & QCD</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">John: seems to be that lopa should be uniform; they are not difficult; why not have a statutory form?</span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John McCrady<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 13, 2019 2:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] "Lack of Probate Affidavit" & QCD</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">I think you should ask to talk to a title officer, who will probably ask for the client to complete and sign the title company’s own lack of probate affidavit (which indemnifies
the title company). They should then be willing to insure a sale/encumbrance by the heir.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D">253-476-5721</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D"><a href="mailto:j.mccrady@pstitle.com">j.mccrady@pstitle.com</a></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Josh Grant<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 07, 2019 4:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> wsbar trust <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] "Lack of Probate Affidavit" & QCD</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:13.5pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">Client is the only beneficiary from his brother under a LW&T. Decedent Never had kids or spouse. Brother is the only heir at law.</span><span style="font-size:14.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black"></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:13.5pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">So we recorded a Lack of probate affidavit with a copy of a LW&T.</span><span style="font-size:14.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black"></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:13.5pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">I just ordered a title commit. and they listed the lack of probate affid. as being recorded and then said “We note that the affidavit purports to convey title to Brother. Said document
contains no conveyance language. This company requires a Quit Claim Deed be recorded to perfect title.” An QCD from who? The decedent can’t sign anymore.</span><span style="font-size:14.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black"></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:13.5pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">The affid. said in part:
</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt; color:black">“</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt; color:black">Decedent left a Last Will and Testament which has not been probated or revoked, a copy of which accompanied this document, for review by the Treasurer. This
will provides for the distribution of all of the Decedent’s estate to brother and Affiant,”
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<span style="font-size:14.0pt; color:black">I thought this was what a lack of probate affid. is intended for.</span><span style="font-size:14.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black"></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:14.0pt; color:black">thanks</span><span style="font-size:14.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black"></span></p>
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