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<p class="MsoNormal">I have handled this in the past by essentially presenting the Will, not specifically asking that it be admitted to probate and proven as the Will, but stating that because the distribution is identical to intestacy and the named Personal
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Jeanette. The Will is simple and leaves everything to the same people who would inherit if the estate were intestate. Do you think I can ethically ignore the Will and just file a Petition for determination of intestacy? Or is there
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">If the witnesses signed the will and you are just lacking the attestation, see 11.20.040.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Where one witness is dead but someone can attest to their handwriting and other facts, then Court may accept that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">For instance, attorney was a witness and he is deceased but his spouse or secretary is alive and can attest to his signature and practice of witnessing wills.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I have never had to do this where both witnesses were deceased. I would think that is a lot trickier.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I’d like some suggestions on the best way to approach the court with a Will that has no attestation of witnesses, and
both witnesses are known to be deceased. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Thank you, Joyce Schwensen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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