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<DIV><FONT size=4>The question initially asks about “pre-death” expenses. Then
asked about the filing fee. I have never had a case where I tried to file
a probate pre-death. I just advance the filing fee and publication fee,
and it is listed when we do the Notice of Declaration of Completion. Never
had an objection. All pre-death reimbursements are paid by TEDRA agreement of
all heirs or a hearing on a creditor’s claim.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=dalynne@glgmail.com
href="mailto:dalynne@glgmail.com">Dalynne Singleton</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 18, 2019 4:22 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [WSBAPT] PR reimbursement for Pre-death
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<DIV>I have done both ways. One time as motion in probate court and received
order. No one opposed or objected. Second time I filed tedra because it was met
with complete opposition. Commissioner in king accepted first one no issue and
gave my PR a judgment. Second one tedra was in Kitsap and required several
hearings on the creditors claim, PR fees and other issues. Resolved at
settlement conference with upcoming trial date. Statute clearly says
tedra. </DIV>
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[WSBAPT] PR reimbursement for Pre-death expenses
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<P class=MsoNormal>Does a Personal Representative need to file a claim and have
it approved by the Court for every reimbursement of a pre-death expense. That
has always been my understanding, and I have followed this procedure absent
written agreement of all heirs (and even then, sent in an agreed order for
signature occasionally). </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>RCW 11.40.140 states that the “The petition must be filed
under RCW 11.96A.080.” whether or not the Personal Representative has
nonintervention powers. Does this mean a $240 filing fee and noted hearing? Who
pays for this, him personally, or the estate? I have a Personal Representative
who could have drawn funds out of the account, he was POA before death, who is
frustrated with my advice that this is what is required. He has clear proof of
having deposited funds (to cover shortfalls between arrival of payment from
long-term care insurance and nursing home expenditures) on a couple of
occasions.</P>
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