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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I watermark my drafts with a big red “Draft” and password protect so the watermark cannot be removed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Nestor Gorfinkel, Attorney at Law</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Licensed in Washington & Florida</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Florida Civil-Law (International) Notary</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>ATTENTION - This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by telephone at the phone numbers provided herein and delete this message. Please note that if this e-mail message contains a forwarded message or is a reply to a prior message, some or all of the contents of this message or any attachments may not have been produced by the sender.</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:24.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:#009900'>P</span></b><b><span style='font-size:24.0pt;color:#009900'> </span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#009900'>Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brent Williams-Ruth<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:52 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jeff Davis <jeff@bellanddavispllc.com>; WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <WSBAPT@lists.wsbarppt.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Providing Client with word version of draft demand letters/estate planning documents<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>When I started out on my own, I used to send drafts (even as PDF's) - but as a not-so-young, solo, I was quickly schooled in the ways of the dishonest.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>As has been previously stated - even with a PDF - your work product may not be safe. It is expressly written into my fee agreement that I will NOT send draft documents. If someone wants me to ensure that I collected all of the appropriate information and spellings - I will send an email with just a list of names, addresses, a recitation of their words to me regarding their wishes but not in any usable format or with any of the other "magic" language that makes a Will, POA, Trust, etc. have its power. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>If a draft is truly that important - there is a specific extra fee and the cost of printing and mailing. I have stopped allowing someone the easy way to take my work product. Now, if they want to try to OCR or just re-type then go ahead. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><p><b><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Brent Williams-Ruth</span></b><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> <br><i>Attorney-At-Law</i></span><o:p></o:p></p><p><b><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Law Offices of Brent Williams-Ruth, </span></b><b><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>a division of BWR Consulting, PLLC</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Office/Scheduling Phone:<span style='color:#004080'> </span>(425) 830-5134</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Direct Mobile: (206) 889-7919</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><a href="mailto:Brent@Williams-RuthLaw.com" target="_blank">e-mail</a> / <a href="http://www.Williams-RuthLaw.com/" target="_blank">website</a> /</span><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span><a href="http://www.facebook.com/bwrconsults" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>facebook</span></a><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> / </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><b><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:red;background:white'>As of July 1, 2019 - I began operating as the Law Offices of Brent Williams-Ruth a division of BWR Consulting, PLLC. Please note the new points of contact <a href="mailto:Brent@Williams-RuthLaw.com">Brent@Williams-RuthLaw.com</a> and <a href="http://www.Williams-RuthLaw.com" target="_blank">www.Williams-RuthLaw.com</a> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:01 PM Jeff Davis <<a href="mailto:jeff@bellanddavispllc.com">jeff@bellanddavispllc.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Listmates:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Recently I have had different clients request I provide them with a word version of my proposed demand letter, involving an easement issue, and trust agreement, respectively. They wanted to redraft the letter and the other wanted to add things to the trust. I declined to provide the word version. One person got really nasty saying by not doing so violated RPC 1.4. In all my years I have never allowed a client to draft letters or pleadings that I sign. Have any of you faced this issue and how have you dealt with it?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Jeff Davis<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>W. Jeff Davis, Esq.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>BELL & DAVIS PLLC<br>P.O. Box 510<br>Sequim WA 98382<br>Phone No.:(360) 683.1129 <br>Fax No.: (360) 683.1258 <br>email: <a href="mailto:info@bellanddavispllc.com" target="_blank">info@bellanddavispllc.com</a><br><a href="http://www.bellanddavispllc.com/" target="_blank">www.bellanddavispllc.com</a><br> <br>The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution, or copying is strictly prohibited. If you think that you have received this e-mail message in error, please e-mail the sender at <a href="mailto:info@bellanddavispllc.com" target="_blank">info@bellanddavispllc.com</a> or call 360.683.1129</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>***Disclaimer: Please note that RPPT listserv participation is not restricted to practicing attorneys and may include non-practicing attorneys, law students, professionals working in related fields, and others.***<br>_______________________________________________<br>WSBAPT mailing list<br><a href="mailto:WSBAPT@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">WSBAPT@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br><a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbapt" target="_blank">http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbapt</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>