<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">The main reason I do not send word or pdf docs is that people frequently forward things to others with little thought. I take our work as lawyers and counsellors seriously and I dont want my documents - which are specific to a particular client’s situation - being used or revised in inexpert ways by others. I’m sure we’ve all seen those documents come through which were some chopped up version of what likely was an appropriate document for the person for whom it was originally prepared. <br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr"><div>Melinda</div><div><br></div>Misspelled from my iPhone, <span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">which spells as it pleases and is not grammar correctly.</span><div><br></div><div>Law Office of Melinda K Grout</div><div>PO Box 1360</div><div>Monroe, WA 98272</div><div>(360) 794-4322. Tel</div><div>(425) 744-6745. Fax</div><div><br></div><div>Notice: This message is intended only for the addressee, and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, it is too late to stop reading, but please do not use it for any improper purpose.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Sep 17, 2019, at 3:51 PM, Brent Williams-Ruth <<a href="mailto:brent@williams-ruthlaw.com">brent@williams-ruthlaw.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">When I started out on my own, I used to send drafts (even as PDF's) - but as a not-so-young, solo, I was quickly schooled in the ways of the dishonest.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">As has been previously stated - even with a PDF - your work product may not be safe. It is expressly written into my fee agreement that I will NOT send draft documents. If someone wants me to ensure that I collected all of the appropriate information and spellings - I will send an email with just a list of names, addresses, a recitation of their words to me regarding their wishes but not in any usable format or with any of the other "magic" language that makes a Will, POA, Trust, etc. have its power. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">If a draft is truly that important - there is a specific extra fee and the cost of printing and mailing. I have stopped allowing someone the easy way to take my work product. Now, if they want to try to OCR or just re-type then go ahead. </div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><p><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Brent Williams-Ruth</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> <br><i>Attorney-At-Law</i><span style="color:rgb(68,68,68)"></span></span></p><p><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Law Offices of Brent Williams-Ruth, <font size="1">a division of </font></span></b><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><font size="1">BWR Consulting, PLLC</font></span></b></p><p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(68,68,68)"></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Office/Scheduling Phone:<span style="color:rgb(0,64,128)"> </span>(425) 830-5134<span style="color:rgb(68,68,68)"></span></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Direct Mobile: (206) 889-7919</span></p><p style="line-height:20.8267px;margin:0px 0px 1.35em;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(68,68,68)"></p><p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><a href="mailto:Brent@Williams-RuthLaw.com" target="_blank">e-mail</a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> / <a href="http://www.Williams-RuthLaw.com/" target="_blank">website</a> /</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:12.8px"> </span><a href="http://www.facebook.com/bwrconsults" style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:12.8px" target="_blank">facebook</a><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:12.8px"> / </span></p><p><font face="Times New Roman, serif" color="#ff0000"><span style="font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><b>As of July 1, 2019 - I began operating as the Law Offices of Brent Williams-Ruth a division of BWR Consulting, PLLC. Please note the new points of contact <a href="mailto:Brent@Williams-RuthLaw.com">Brent@Williams-RuthLaw.com</a> and <a href="http://www.Williams-RuthLaw.com" target="_blank">www.Williams-RuthLaw.com</a> </b></span></font></p></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 2:01 PM Jeff Davis <<a href="mailto:jeff@bellanddavispllc.com">jeff@bellanddavispllc.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_-8005900081911527026WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">Listmates:<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Recently I have had different clients request I provide them with a word version of my proposed demand letter, involving an easement issue, and trust agreement, respectively. They wanted to redraft the letter and the other wanted to add things to the trust. I declined to provide the word version. One person got really nasty saying by not doing so violated RPC 1.4. In all my years I have never allowed a client to draft letters or pleadings that I sign. Have any of you faced this issue and how have you dealt with it?<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Jeff Davis<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:black">W. Jeff Davis, Esq.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:black">BELL & DAVIS PLLC<br>P.O. 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