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<b>On Behalf Of </b>John White<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 30, 2019 4:06 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] duty to deliver will - RPC 1.6<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">How does one determine whether the will has (or has not) been revoked, if all counsel has is a copy. It there is a later will, or if the testator or testatrix revoked the will, the
copy is a nullity, no?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blue">The presumption is revocation if the original cannot be located. That is a ground to oppose an order based on the duty to produce the will under the statute.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dalynne Singleton<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">A copy of a Will can be determined valid and I have used a copy many times to open probate. The RCW says “any will” so not sure why a copy would make a difference. I would
file it with the court especially given the threats by counsel and order of the court. You can file it as a copy… validly executed – 2 witnesses, dated and signed. Does the copy of the Will fit that description?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rick Hoss<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 30, 2019 3:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv' <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Dalynne,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I have a copy only. “Will” means an instrument validly executed. RCW 11.02.005(20).
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Rick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dalynne Singleton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 30, 2019 3:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] duty to deliver will - RPC 1.6<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">File the Will as directed in the RCW. Inform the heir that you have done so.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">RCW <a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.20.010"><span style="color:#7DAB8A">11.20.010</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Duty of custodian of will</span></b><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black">—</span></b><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Liability.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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of the testator, deliver said will to the court having jurisdiction or to the person named in the will as executor, and any executor having in his or her custody or control any will shall within forty days after he or she received knowledge of the death of
the testator deliver the same to the court having jurisdiction. Any person who shall wilfully violate any of the provisions of this section shall be liable to any party aggrieved for the damages which may be sustained by such violation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rick Hoss<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 30, 2019 3:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv' <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] duty to deliver will - RPC 1.6<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Listmates, <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">If a lawyer has a copy of a will must it be provided to an heir who is not the personal representative?
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<p class="MsoNormal">RPC 1.6 (a) says that a lawyer shall not reveal information relating to the representation of a client unless the client gives informed consent, the disclosure is impliedly authorized in order to carry out the representation or the disclosure
is permitted in RPC 1.6(b). RPC 1.6(b)(6) says the lawyer may reveal information relating to the representation of a client to comply with a court order.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My client agreement authorizes me to disclose information to the personal representative. Seattle lawyer for heir obtains ex parte court order requiring me to deliver copy of will. He threatens the estate will suffer loss if I don’t comply
now.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Ethics hotline response is generally don’t disclose and resist court order. We have tried hard to find the personal representative and back up with no luck.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Suggestions?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Rick Hoss<o:p></o:p></p>
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