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<p class="MsoNormal">Oh, yes that is different then I envisioned. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Historically I have had success by calling Medicaid and getting an e-mail saying “no balance owed”. I am not sure they still do that as it has been a couple of years since I’ve needed this.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Script MT Bold"">Diane J. Kiepe<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nicholas Pleasants<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 16, 2019 5:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Clearing title on sale with Transfer on Death Deed<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for the quick responses. To clarify, no Medicaid services were rendered, and there is no lien. Whenever you go to sell a decedent’s property, the Title Report usually has an exception for potential Medicaid lien for services provided
to decedent. In my usual course of business, I would write back a letter that Notice to Creditors was sent to DSHS pursuant to RCW 11.40.020(1)(d) and no probate claim was filed. However, since there is no probate, there was no notice to DSHS.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I know that when there is a lien, I can call DSHS / Office of Financial Recovery and get a payoff amount. So I’ll try calling and see if they’ll give me a statement of no lien. I was just curious if others had dealt with this particular
exception to title insurance in a non-probate situation, whether because title was vested using TODD, JTWROS, Community Property Agreement, etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#5B9BD5">Nicholas Pleasants<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">James Pleasants, P.C.<br>
2300 130th Ave NE, Suite A-101<br>
Bellevue, WA 98005-1755<br>
(425) 615-7070 tel.<br>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Diane J. Kiepe<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Clearing title on sale with Transfer on Death Deed<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I may be misunderstanding your question but the Transfer on Death deed does vest title immediately, just subject to the lien. The sale can happen but the beneficiary just needs to have the lien paid out of the closing proceeds. The state
is very willing to work with a Sellor in that regards.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best of luck,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Diane J. Kiepe<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">So don't know but does the State (DSHS) manage this program and if yes, you can get a letter pretty quick from them as to if any amounts are owed, right? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Subject: [WSBAPT] Clearing title on sale with Transfer on Death Deed<br>
From: Nicholas Pleasants <<a href="mailto:nick@pleasantslaw.com"><span style="color:windowtext">nick@pleasantslaw.com</span></a>><br>
Date: Thu, May 16, 2019 4:30 pm<br>
To: "<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com"><span style="color:windowtext">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</span></a>" <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com"><span style="color:windowtext">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</span></a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Transfer on Death Deeds have been around for a few years now, but this is my first time assisting a client with selling the residence after the grantor died. Title
Report has an exception for potential Medicaid lien on grantor’s estate. Any suggestion how I can go about clearing that? Title Company had suggested a Lack of Probate affidavit, but that seems like overkill. I’m slightly disappointed that the Transfer on
Death does not seem to vest title quite so automatically. Thanks for any help.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">James Pleasants, P.C.<br>
2300 130th Ave NE, Suite A-101<br>
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(425) 615-7070 tel.<br>
(425) 497-0799 fax<br>
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