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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#000000" vlink="#000000"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>My best answer is to look at RCW 19.40. Although anytime one receives something of value without consideration, it is subject to Federal and State laws related to bankruptcy and fraudulent transfers.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Nestor Gorfinkel, Attorney at Law<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Licensed in Washington & Florida<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Florida Civil-Law (International) Notary<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>ATTENTION - This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. 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Please note that if this e-mail message contains a forwarded message or is a reply to a prior message, some or all of the contents of this message or any attachments may not have been produced by the sender.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:24.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:#009900'>P</span></b><b><span style='font-size:24.0pt;color:#009900'> </span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#009900'>Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.</span></b><span style='font-family:"Century Schoolbook",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>michael@westseattleattorney.com<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 8, 2019 1:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Incarcerated person wishes to donate retirement payments<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'>Ok, I have not had this type of case, but isn't there a scenario where a person show has not reached the retirement age and therefore has not received the benefits, decides to retire early, due to the conviction, opting for a lump sum cash out, which then becomes attachable. If creditor can show that this was done to avoid creditors (pending suit etc), then wouldn't they be able to reach the asset? <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><img width=500 height=100 style='width:5.2083in;height:1.0416in' id=sigimg0 src="cid:image001.png@01D4D5BA.3D4DCFD0"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:6.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' id=replyBlockquote><div id=wmQuoteWrapper><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>-------- Original Message --------<br>Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Incarcerated person wishes to donate<br>retirement payments<br>From: <<a href="mailto:nestor@pplsweb.com"><span style='color:windowtext'>nestor@pplsweb.com</span></a>><br>Date: Fri, March 08, 2019 12:53 pm<br>To: "'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv'" <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com"><span style='color:windowtext'>wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</span></a>><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>I don’t think it matters. Isn’t it required for a creditor or the state to levy and attach or garnish the payment or funds? Until such time, he is “free” to do what he wants with his money.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>Nestor Gorfinkel, Attorney at Law<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>Licensed in Washington & Florida<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>Florida Civil-Law (International) Notary<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>ATTENTION - This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. 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I would make make sure that there are no judgments or pending suits for personal injuries/ damages and or government costs /reimbursements etc from the conviction.</span></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'><img border=0 width=500 height=100 style='width:5.2083in;height:1.0416in' id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image001.png@01D4D5BA.3D4DCFD0"></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:6.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' id=replyBlockquote><div id=wmQuoteWrapper><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=mceitemhidden><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>-------- Original Message --------</span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><br><span class=mceitemhidden>Subject: [</span><span class=mceitemhiddenspellword>WSBAPT</span><span class=mceitemhidden>] Incarcerated person wishes to donate retirement</span><br><span class=mceitemhidden>payments</span><br><span class=mceitemhidden>From: </span><span class=mceitemhiddenspellword>Lovie</span><span class=mceitemhidden> </span><span class=mceitemhiddenspellword>Bernardi</span><span class=mceitemhidden> <<a href="mailto:lovie@fb-lawfirm.com" target="_blank"><u><span style='color:blue'>lovie@fb-lawfirm.com</span></u></a>></span><br><span class=mceitemhidden>Date: Fri, March 08, 2019 11:39 am</span><br><span class=mceitemhidden>To: </span><span class=mceitemhiddenspellword>WSBA</span><span class=mceitemhidden> Probate & Trust </span><span class=mceitemhiddenspellword>Listserv</span><span class=mceitemhidden> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank"><u><span style='color:blue'>wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</span></u></a>></span><br><br><span class=mceitemhidden>#wmQuoteWrapper /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:"Cambria Math"; panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} #wmQuoteWrapper @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} #wmQuoteWrapper /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, #wmQuoteWrapper li.MsoNormal, #wmQuoteWrapper div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;} #wmQuoteWrapper a:link, #wmQuoteWrapper span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} #wmQuoteWrapper a:visited, #wmQuoteWrapper span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {mso-style-priority:99; color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} #wmQuoteWrapper span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-compose; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:windowtext;} #wmQuoteWrapper .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;} #wmQuoteWrapper @page WordSection1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} #wmQuoteWrapper div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;} </span></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=mceitemhidden><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>Dear </span></span><span class=mceitemhiddenspellword><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>listmates</span></span><span class=mceitemhidden><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>,</span></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=mceitemhidden><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'> </span></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=mceitemhidden><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>I received a call from a pastor who volunteers at a prison. He has been counselling a man serving a life sentence who wanted to donate his $1,900 a month retirement check to a charity. The prisoner apparently sent the money to someone with instructions on where to donate the money. He recently learned they were using the money for their personal benefit. The person/people who were originally asked to handle the money sent the pastor a check for the remaining money in their possession, $40,000, much to his surprise. The pastor doesn’t feel it is appropriate for him to be directly involved with the money and the donation of it and will not cash the check. Does anyone have some suggestions on how to set up a mechanism for this money to be donated? 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