<div dir="ltr">Hello Fellow Listserv Participants:<div><br></div><div>I wanted to address some concerns that some of the listserv subscribers and participants had about some of the changes. Specifically, some participants who are not members of the bar expressed concerns that the upcoming changes would force them to take on the economic obligation to join the bar. </div><div><br></div><div>I want to assure you that this is not the case. A person can enjoy section membership in the WSBA RPPT section without necessarily being a member of the WSBA. I've posted the by-law below to assure those who have these concerns that section membership is open to non-WSBA members. Please note that non-WSBA members would not be able to vote in section elections, but would otherwise enjoy the other member benefits including: access to the Quarterly Newsletter, access to electronic resources such as deskbook sections, and access to the listservs. Please see the by-laws below: </div><div><br></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">2 Subscribers. Any law student or other person may be enrolled as a non-voting member (“subscriber”) upon request and payment of applicable annual Section dues. Subscribers shall be entitled to receive the Newsletter of the Section and shall have access to materials and pages designated as "Members Pages" on the Section's web site, but subscribers have no right to vote.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">2.3 Dues. Dues shall be paid annually in advance. Any person who shall fail to pay the annual dues shall cease to be a member or subscriber of the Section, as applicable. Dues, which shall be determined by the executive committee of the Section, and approved by the Bar Board of Governors, may differ for voting members and subscribers. The dues for law students shall be set according to the annual standard established by the Board of Governors for law student section memberships.</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in"><br></p></div>I hope this assuages the concerns of the non-member participants to the listserv. Please know that everyone's participation in the listserv is valued. The Executive Committee decided to implement these changes to the listserv in part due to the resources necessary to maintain and operate the listservs and to improve the overall experience for both the listservs and for section members.<div><br></div><div>Kind regards,</div><div>Michael Safren</div><div>Web Editor, RPPT section </div><div><br><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 10:05 AM RebeccaWiess <<a href="mailto:rwiess@foxinternet.net">rwiess@foxinternet.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">The new policy means I and other retired
attorneys will no longer be part of this listserv. I occasionally post on
historical evolution of real property procedure or law, as a contribution to
the education of those who come after me, and payback for those who helped me
as a newbie thirty-some years ago. If institutional memory is valuable, then
this listserv needs an emeritus status to include folks like me. If us old
folks are not of value, then cut us out. And before you say “just join
the section,” remember that retaining bar membership after retiring means
continuing to pay bar dues and CLE costs. Once you do that, you get tempted to
do some little piece of practice, and then you should be insured as well, and
that means needing more income, and suddenly you are not retired anymore.
Allowing non-practicing members of the bar to join still means you are going to
eliminate some of your oldest and most experienced current members, because
they retired.. <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Rebecca K. Wiess<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma">
<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Michael Safren<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, January 17, 2019
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <u></u>WSBA
Real Property Listserv<u></u>; WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [WSBARP] Update on
Upcoming Changes to the Real Property and the Probate & Trust Listservs</span></font><u></u><u></u></p>
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updates and upcoming changes to both the Real Property and Probate & Trust
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">Starting February 1st, 2019, both listservs will only be accessible by
WSBA RPPT members. The RPPT Executive Committee decided after much deliberation
and input that the listservs should be an exclusive member benefit.
Starting February 1st, 2019, you will need to login into the <a href="http://www.wsbarppt.com/" target="_blank">www.wsbarppt.com</a> website
using your section login and password in order to register for the listserv,
access the listserv archives, and/or unsubscribe to the listserv. <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">Further, the Executive Committee has approved the adoption of new
guidelines, rules, and general etiquette for the listserv. These will be
posted on www.wsbarppt,com under the listserv tab for all members to see and
review.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">Lastly, beginning on February 1st, 2019, all listserv postings will
contain a disclaimer in the footer reminding all that while the listservs will
be restricted to RPPT section members, not all section members are practicing
attorneys. Section membership is open to law students, non-practicing
members of the bar, and even some non-attorney professionals in related fields
such as title officers, real estate agents, and escrow agents. <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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listserv experience for section members and deliver value to members as one of
many available section member benefits.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">I hope to make the transition to the members only listserv as seamless
as possible If you experience any difficulty during the transition,
please feel free to email me and I will do my best to respond and assist you.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">Kind regards,<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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