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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">"Probate" has multiple meanings. In this context "probate" means "proving" of the Will ("probate or rejection
<b>thereof</b>," with "thereof" meaning "the Will"), not the more generic meaning of "probate administration." An intestate administration technically is not a probate, even though everyone calls it that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Diane J. Kiepe<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 28, 2018 3:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Will Found....how to file?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">And I promise, I’m not trying to be difficult here – but the note below states 4 months from the Probate – the probate was commenced on the appointment of the
PR right? Wouldn’t any filing relate back? I don’t believe the probate itself is not valid because a subsequent Will is found. I sort of compare this to a case I had seen where the spouse had priority to serve but someone else was appointed, spouse went
in and had herself appointed – in that case would you say the 4 months starts over because new PR serves notice of appointment?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Again, thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Diane<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Elizabeth Bateman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 28, 2018 2:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Will Found....how to file?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The will itself takes 4 months to become final if it is probated under RCW 11.24.010: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">RCW <a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.24.010"><span style="color:#7DAB8A">11.24.010</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></h3>
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<span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Contest of probate or rejection</span><span style="color:black">—</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Limitation of action</span><span style="color:black">—</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Issues.<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">If any person interested in any will shall appear within four months immediately following the probate or rejection thereof, and by petition to the
court having jurisdiction contest the validity of said will, or appear to have the will proven which has been rejected, he or she shall file a petition containing his or her objections and exceptions to said will, or to the rejection thereof. Issues respecting
the competency of the deceased to make a last will and testament, or respecting the execution by a deceased of the last will and testament under restraint or undue influence or fraudulent representations, or for any other cause affecting the validity of the
will or a part of it, shall be tried and determined by the court.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">For the purpose of tolling the four-month limitations period, a contest is deemed commenced when a petition is filed with the court and not when served
upon the personal representative. The petitioner shall personally serve the personal representative within ninety days after the date of filing the petition. If, following filing, service is not so made, the action is deemed to not have been commenced for
purposes of tolling the statute of limitations.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">If no person files and serves a petition within the time under this section, the probate or rejection of such will shall be binding and final.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 2:40 PM Diane J. Kiepe <<a href="mailto:DJKiepe@depdslaw.com">DJKiepe@depdslaw.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hello Elizabeth,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Why would you think the 4 months would have to restart? If a probate was opened as intestate, and
then a Will is found and filed, this does not effect the 4 months from “publishing” does it?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It seems a bit odd to me the a statute tide to a publishing date can be retriggered by subsequent
new facts like this but I certainly have not had this experience.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Elizabeth Bateman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 28, 2018 1:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Will Found....how to file?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Yes, you just prepare and file a petition to admit found will to probate, get letters testamentary, and unfortunately wait four months for the will to become final. It stinks that
it throws off your timeline, but you cannot just sit on the will. If the beneficiaries are the same under the will and you're willing to risk it, you could theoretically make partial distributions while you wait out the four months...? Kinda depends on the
circumstances. I suppose you could also file a petition for instruction and see if the court will give you any lee-weigh. Whatever you do, I'd get a court order for cover. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 1:09 PM Brent Williams-Ruth <<a href="mailto:brent@bwrconsults.com" target="_blank">brent@bwrconsults.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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was found. Looked into the witnesses, both have passed. <o:p></o:p></p>
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had us filing the Declaration of Completion in the next couple of weeks with final distribution happening in January. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><i>Admitted in Washington and Minnesota </i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Copperplate Gothic Light";color:#0B5394">Bateman Law Group, PLLC</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt">999 Third Avenue, Suite 2525</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Seattle, WA 98104-4089</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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