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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Lack of Probate Affidavits are not conveyance documents and are used by title companies as an underwriting tool to issue title policies. Unless your selling or refinancing, I don’t see a need for recording one. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Also, makes no sense to do a deed from “me to me”, since it is redundant, costs money and legally does not affect title.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Nestor Gorfinkel<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Nestor Gorfinkel, Attorney at Law<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Licensed in Washington & Florida<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Florida Civil-Law (International) Notary<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>ATTENTION - This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by telephone at the phone numbers provided herein and delete this message. Please note that if this e-mail message contains a forwarded message or is a reply to a prior message, some or all of the contents of this message or any attachments may not have been produced by the sender.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:24.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:#009900'>P</span></b><b><span style='font-size:24.0pt;color:#009900'> </span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#009900'>Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.</span></b><span style='font-family:"Century Schoolbook",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Winslow<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 6, 2018 10:22 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv' <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Succession/Lack of Probate Affidavit<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I made a cross-post made to the a real estate List serve with your inquiry. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>We run into complaining from the Skagit Treasurer’s clerks about LOPA because they claim they aren’t conveyances (to which we agree). Skagit Treasurer clerks routinely tell people off the street that they need to do a Quit Claim Deed to themselves when a spouse dies, if there is no probate. This <i>legal advice</i> from the Treasurer’s clerks in Skagit unfortunately seems consistent with what appears to be happening in King County.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Michael A. Winslow<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>1204 Cleveland Ave.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Mount Vernon, WA 98273<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Ph. 360-336-3321<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Em. <a href="mailto:Mike@winslegal.com">Mike@winslegal.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>This message is from an attorney, so it’s confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, it’s too late to stop reading this message, but you may not use it for any improper purpose. Huge Disclaimer available upon request.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jacob Menashe<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 06, 2018 9:44 AM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br><b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Succession/Lack of Probate Affidavit<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hello all, <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I am looking for some thoughts about recording a succession/lack of probate affidavit. I am particularly concerned about the situation in King County, where I’ve seen a rejection that said in all caps (which I won’t do): <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Cannot use affidavit lack of probate as a conveyance document. Please review appropriate WAC codes available and resubmit a conveyance document i.e., conveyance language that specifically transfers property to the surviving spouse or heir. Thanks. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>We followed the specifics in excise tax WAC 458-61A-202 that specifically addresses lack of probate affidavits, that requires the death certificate be provided when recording – which we did. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Can folks out there shed some light on this issue, both for King County and elsewhere, and perhaps suggest what we may need to do? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Jacob<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Jacob H. Menashe<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hickman Menashe, PS<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>4211 Alderwood Mall Blvd., Suite 202<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Lynnwood, WA 98036<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>(425) 744-5658 phone<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>(425) 744-6078 fax<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Satellite Office in Bellevue<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="www.hickmanmenashe.com"><span style='color:windowtext'>www.hickmanmenashe.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>CONFIDENTIALITY:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> The contents of this message and any attachment(s) may contain confidential or privileged information. Any disclosure, copying, distribution, or unauthorized use of the contents of this message is prohibited and doing so may destroy the confidential nature of the communication. 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