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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Thanks Tom--<u>Allard</u> is helpful and I've inserted it for my briefing on attorney fees award.<u></u><u></u></span></p><span class="">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1f497d">Sincerely,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1f497d">Eric<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1f497d">Eric C. Nelsen<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1f497d">SAYRE LAW OFFICES, PLLC<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Westbrook<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 16, 2018 7:55 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Deny PR or Trustee Fee for breach of fiduciary duty?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hey Eric,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Since you give so freely of great advice to this list, I wish I could give you exactly what you want. The only thing I could find in looking at my Washington Probate Deskbook
 is <u>Allard v. Pacific National Bank</u>, 99 Wn.2d 394 (1983). Here the court found the bank “…liable for the damages that flowed from its breach of fiduciary duty.” Seems to me logically that any fee the fiduciary took for its services would be under the
 scrutiny of this case as part of the damages to the estate. But, I don’t have that case in my back pocket.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Good luck!</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Best Regards,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Tom</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thomas J. Westbrook</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Eric Nelsen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 16, 2018 6:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust listserve (<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>) <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Deny PR or Trustee Fee for breach of fiduciary duty?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It is getting late and I am competely losing my research ability. Can anyone point me to the case or cases that say that a PR or Trustee who has violated her/his fiduciary duty can be denied their fee for services?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Sincerely,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Eric</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Eric C. Nelsen</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">SAYRE LAW OFFICES, PLLC</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">1417 31st Ave South</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Seattle WA  98144-3909</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">phone 206-625-0092</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">fax 206-625-9040</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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