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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hello:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>This issue is, many times, a potential feature of adoptions. If the Decree of Adoption includes a name change, the Washington Dept of Health is ORDERED by the Washington court to prepare a new Birth Certificate, in cases where the birth was in Washington. And, if the person was born in another state, the Washington Decree of Adoption includes a provision in which the out-of-state Dept of Vital Statistics is RESPECTFULLY REQUESTED to prepare a new Birth Certificate, reflecting the new parent(s) and, if applicable, the new name.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Sometimes, when an adult, or an older teen-ager, is adopted, the adoptee wishes to retain his/her original name. A new Birth Certificate is still important in such an instance (even if there is no name change), in my opinion, because the adoption has usually taken place to honor a step-parent who has carried out the actual parenting role for the individual, and the adopted individual wants to have a new Birth Certificate, reflecting the adoptive parent as the parent to be identified as the Legal Parent on the new Birth Certificate, even if there is not going to be a name change.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>And, the cost is relatively low. Cost for a new Birth Certificate in Washington is $35.00, and, in my experience, other states charge in a range of $6.00 as a low (believe it or not) to about $70.00 as a high (Oregon just went up to $60.00 a couple of years ago). But, I agree with Lisa. It is useful having an accurate Birth Certificate, reflecting whatever was set out in the Decree of Adoption, but also, in the non-adoption name-change arena, reflecting the realities of the Order Changing Name.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Addressing Krista’s comment regarding a B/C reflecting the reality at the time of birth, in the context of an adoption, a Decree of Adoption essentially negates the presence of the actual Birth Parent in the picture (on the Birth Certificate), replacing him/her with the new Adoptive Parent as the Legal (Birth) Parent.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>In the case of a legal name change, not involving an Adoption, the person’s new name would replace the original Birth Name, but with the original parent(s) shown as the legal parent(s), and, it seems to me, that is the reality which the name changer wishes the world to know about him/her. It certainly takes away the necessity of a bunch of explanation, if the name changer can simply present the new Birth Certificate, reflecting the new legal name now used by him/her. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Doug Bratt<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:#1F497D'>Douglas J. Bratt</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:#1F497D'>Lawyer</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><img width=165 height=167 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D42A66.4EEF6690" alt="Envelope scaled Terry"></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>Office: (360) 213-2040 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> Fax: (360) 213-2030<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message may contain confidential or privileged information. If you have received this message by mistake, please do not review, disclose, copy, or distribute the email. Instead, please notify us immediately by replying to this message or telephoning us. Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>NOTE:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>I do not use encrypted email. Messages sent to or from my office via email are not secure and may not be protected by attorney-client privilege. This email address is not monitored at all times. If your matter is urgent, please phone my office during regular business hours.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lisa E Schuchman<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 02, 2018 12:57 PM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] name change in Washington<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif"'>Wendy, I would always change the birth certificate. Eventually people will need it for something. It’s easy enough to change a WA birth certificate (<a href="https://www.kingcounty.gov/courts/district-court/name-changes.aspx">https://www.kingcounty.gov/courts/district-court/name-changes.aspx</a>). You can search online for the same info in other states. I used to have a list but I can’t find it. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'>Lisa E. Schuchman<br>206-960-4212<br><a href="http://www.lisaschuchman.com/" target="_blank">www.lisaschuchman.com</a><br><br>I learn, I give. – Gloria Steinem<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'>NOTE: I do not use encrypted email. Messages sent to or from my office via email are not secure and may not be protected by attorney-client privilege. This email address is not monitored at all times. If your matter is urgent, please phone my office during regular business hours. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'>Any tax advice included in this document and its attachments was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:24.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green'>P</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";color:green'> </span><b><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#008100'>Please consider the trees before printing this document</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Krista MacLaren<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 2, 2018 11:03 AM<br><b>To:</b> wsba probate & trust <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] name change in Washington<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Wendy,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>This is an interesting question. My first thought is that wouldn’t a person want the paper trail of their original birth certificate combined with the order that shows their birth name and their changed name? I would just advise them to keep a copy of the order with their birth certificate and view them as a set. If you change a name for someone in WA, do you have them change their birth certificate also? I have done a handful of name changes, but never advised them to change their birth certificate - though I confess it never crossed my mind, because I thought of a birth certificate as a document that represents the reality at the time of birth. To apply for a passport, for example, I would expect the original birth certificate plus the court order would be sufficient. I am curious if others think differently.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Krista J. MacLaren<br>Attorney at Law<br>Northgate Executive Center II<br>9725 3rd Ave NE, Suite 600<br>Seattle WA 98115<br>(206) 523-6116<br><a href="mailto:kjm.inc@icloud.com">kjm.inc@icloud.com</a><br><br>Please note, as with most email providers, Mac does not encrypt email messages. Accordingly, the confidentiality of messages sent to this address cannot be assured. This e-mail is intended for viewing only by the individual or entity to whom its content is addressed, and it may contain confidential or privileged information. If you received this email in error, please honor the privacy of the intended recipient: reply to the sender regarding the error and delete the message.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Aug 2, 2018, at 10:41 AM, Goffe, Wendy S. <<a href="mailto:wendy.goffe@stoel.com">wendy.goffe@stoel.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Has anyone done a name change in Washington for someone with an out of state birth certificate? I am interested in any advice you might have as to changing the out of state birth certificate or whether it needs to be changed.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thank you</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#244061'>Wendy S. 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