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<DIV><FONT size=4>Thanks Eric!!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #004080">Joshua F.
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=Eric@sayrelawoffices.com
href="mailto:Eric@sayrelawoffices.com">Eric Nelsen</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 11, 2018 4:45 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [WSBAPT] Lack of subscribing witness -
TEDRAT</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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Reutlinger's Law of Wills and Intestate Succession:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">A codicil not only alters or amends a
will, but it also republishes it. This brings the will up to the date of the
codicil, for any purpose for which the date of the document is important, unless
to do so would be contrary to the intent of the
testator.137<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">137 Thomas E. Atkinson,
Handbook of the Law of Wills 470-73 (2d ed. 1953); 2 Jeffrey A. Schoenblum, Page
on the Law of Wills §23.11 (2003 & Supp. 2016); Restatement (Third) of
Prop.: Wills & Other Donative Transfers §3.4 (1999).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">The concept of incorporation by
reference stands behind certain other doctrines in the law of wills, although
this is not always readily apparent. For example, the theoretical reason that a
codicil republishes a will, bringing the date of its execution down to that of
the codicil, is that the codicil in effect incorporates the existing will by
reference.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>See
<A href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.12.255">RCW
11.12.255</A>. I don't have a case for you, but I could argue that regardless of
whether the Will itself is a valid Will, a later Codicil "republishes it" and
also "incorporates it by reference" as a writing, which effectively brings its
contents within the self-proving affidavit of the Codicil.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d'>It's
not a bulletproof argument but it's all I've got at the
moment.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Josh Grant<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 11, 2018 4:20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> wsbar trust<BR><B>Subject:</B> [WSBAPT] Lack of subscribing
witness - TEDRAT<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>I
have a old 1967 will, they apparently didn’t do affidavits of subscribing
witness in those days at the same time they did the will.</SPAN><SPAN
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style='FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>there
are two newer codicils, both refer to the original will by date etc. they
both have the affidavits of subscribing witness . No one in the fam knows
the witnesses or what law firm did it.</SPAN><SPAN
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style='FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Is
there any authority that says “if a codicil refers to a will, and it has the
affidavits of subscribing witness ... that’s good enough”?</SPAN><SPAN
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B is a TEDRA agreement which says “we authorize the court to consider this a
valid LW&T” signed by all heirs... CAn anyone share with me a TEDRA
that says that.</SPAN><SPAN
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