<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">That was my general thought as well - that simply the words "under agreement dated on" have no specific intent behind them to be irrevocable - but this is how it was presented to me by an elder attorney nearly a decade ago who wrote my Godparents trust, which is, in fact, irrevocable. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Brent</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 4:45 PM, Eric Nelsen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Eric@sayrelawoffices.com" target="_blank">Eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I just Googled that, and discovered that I had no idea there were technical distinctions related to those abbreviations.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I might be the only ignorant one out there, but if I'm not, it's possible that someone else is misusing the abbreviation, so the Trust instrument itself will
have to be consulted to determine whether or not it is revocable.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Sincerely,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Eric<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Eric C. Nelsen<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.<wbr>com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.<wbr>wsbarppt.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Brent Williams-Ruth<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 06, 2018 4:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Trust Designation<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Good Afternoon Hivemind - <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am looking at a trust for a client that has John Doe, Trustee of the John Doe Family Trust, u/a dtd Month, Date, Year of original creation. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It was my understanding that the U/A DTD designation meant it was an irrevocable trust - but this was used for an RLT. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am setting time on Monday to hit the books to dig into this further, but thought I was see if anyone had the answer at their fingertips. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks!<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Brent<u></u><u></u></p>
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