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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Listmates:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">I request special notice as a matter of course any time my clients are concerned about the fidelity of the PR. It’s my hope that it puts any PR who is thinking
about doing something shady on notice that they are being watched.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">That said, it doesn’t really have any teeth. I went after a PR who paid himself and his attorney about forty times over a couple of years without ever providing
the requested notice. The court was like </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">¯\_(</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"MS Gothic";color:windowtext">ツ</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">)_/¯.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">I’m skeptical that the later-discussed “final and conclusive” language from .240(1) would actually hold up in light of the plenary authority granted to the
court under TEDRA when it comes to equitable allocation of fees, but I reckon it depends on which commissioner you get and on which day. And of course we now know from
<i>Rathbone</i> that TEDRA only acts to supplement, no supplant, other statutory provisions, so….<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt">
wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Eric Nelsen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 17, 2018 2:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Special Notice<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">It's in .240 itself, final sentence of subsection (1): "If the notice has been regularly given, any distribution or payment of fees and any order or judgment,
made in accord therewith is final and conclusive." Though I haven't seen case law to confirm that effect, and it's kind of contrary to case law indicating that all orders in an estate are interim orders that can be reviewed and revised at the final accounting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt">Eric C. Nelsen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:windowtext;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:windowtext;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt">
<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Neumiller<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 17, 2018 1:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Special Notice<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">I remember a couple of years ago one of the listserv contributing attorneys posted that he liked it when he received a special request in a probate because if the requesting party did not object to the payment
of the attorney fees under any particular Notice of Intent to pay Attorney Fees, then it is tantamount to a court order and the requesting party would be prevented later to object to those particular attorney fees. I haven’t researched this to confirm. Anyone
know of such a RCW section?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt">
<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Eric Nelsen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 17, 2018 1:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:cole-gilday@stanwoodlaw.net">cole-gilday@stanwoodlaw.net</a>; WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Special Notice<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I totally agree that the "special notice" is almost entirely useless in a NP estate, except as an annoyance when it comes time to pay attorney fees from the estate.
But I don't know of any other statutory authority that would allow a beneficiary to request notice, and I don't think there is any authority that would allow adding other actions to the statutory list in .240.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt">Eric<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt">Eric C. Nelsen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt">SAYRE LAW OFFICES, PLLC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt">Seattle WA 98144-3909<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert R. Cole<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 17, 2018 1:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Special Notice<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>The Request for Special Notice under RCW 11.28.240 is almost irrelevant in non-intervention administrations. Do others "juice up" their requests to include more relevant actions?<o:p></o:p></p>
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