<html><body><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#000000; font-size:12pt;"><div><span class="mceItemHidden">Recently, this list discussed the current regs as to disposal of firearms - is there a way to review the past emails?</span></div><div><span class="mceItemHidden">Thanks</span></div><div><span class="mceItemHidden">Mike</span></div><div><br></div><div><img id="sigimg0" title="signature image" src="cid:sigimg0@a14e08c4f7d564bcc23779e19a17d60a" border="0" alt=""></div><div><br><br></div><span class="mceItemHidden">
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Subject: [<span class="mceItemHiddenSpellWord">WSBAPT</span>] Antique/Collectible Guns</span><br><span class="mceItemHidden">
From: "James B. <span class="mceItemHiddenSpellWord">Dolan</span>" <<a href="mailto:jbdolan@jbdolan.com">jbdolan@jbdolan.com</a>></span><br><span class="mceItemHidden">
Date: Fri, April 13, 2018 1:55 pm</span><br><span class="mceItemHidden">
To: "'WSBA Real Property Listserv'" <<a href="mailto:wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>>, </span><br><span class="mceItemHidden">
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</span></style><div class="WordSection1"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F497D"><span class="mceItemHidden">Decedent had a handful of fairly interesting, very old firearms. Looking for someone to appraise and sell them for estate, preferably someone north of Everett. </span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F497D"><span class="mceItemHidden">Thanks in advance,</span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F497D"><span class="mceItemHidden">Jim <span class="mceItemHiddenSpellWord">Dolan</span> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"><span class="mceItemHidden">===================</span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"><span class="mceItemHidden">Jones Butler <span class="mceItemHiddenSpellWord">Dolan</span>, PS</span><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><u><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.jbdolan.com"><span style="color:blue"><span class="mceItemHidden">www.jbdolan.com</span></span></a><o:p></o:p></span></u></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><u><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.jonesbutlerdolan.com"><span style="color:blue"><span class="mceItemHidden">www.jonesbutlerdolan.com</span></span></a><o:p></o:p></span></u></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><u><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p><span style="text-decoration:none"><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></span></o:p></span></u></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><u><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"><span class="mceItemHidden">Mount Vernon</span><o:p></o:p></span></u></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"><span class="mceItemHidden">P.O. Box 2784</span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"><span class="mceItemHidden">415 Pine Street </span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"><span class="mceItemHidden">Mount Vernon, WA 98273</span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"><span class="mceItemHidden">Telephone: 360-336-2939</span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"><span class="mceItemHidden">Facsimile: 360-336-2949</span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><u><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"><span class="mceItemHidden">Stanwood</span><o:p></o:p></span></u></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><u><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p><span style="text-decoration:none"><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></span></o:p></span></u></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"><span class="mceItemHidden">P.O. Box 458</span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"><span class="mceItemHidden">10027 - 269th Place NW (SR 532)</span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"><span class="mceItemHidden">Stanwood, WA 98292</span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"><span class="mceItemHidden">Telephone: 360-629-3833</span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"><span class="mceItemHidden">Facsimile: 360-629-6253</span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><span class="mceItemHidden">From:</span></span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><span class="mceItemHidden"> <a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbarp-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] </span><b><span class="mceItemHidden">On Behalf Of </span></b><span class="mceItemHidden"><a href="mailto:nestor@pplsweb.com">nestor@pplsweb.com</a></span><br><b><span class="mceItemHidden">Sent:</span></b><span class="mceItemHidden"> Thursday, April 12, 2018 5:47 PM</span><br><b><span class="mceItemHidden">To:</span></b><span class="mceItemHidden"> 'WSBA Real Property Listserv'; <a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a></span><br><b><span class="mceItemHidden">Subject:</span></b><span class="mceItemHidden"> Re: [<span class="mceItemHiddenSpellWord">WSBARP</span>] Title issue</span><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span class="mceItemHidden">Unless there is a defect in the deed, deceased brothers heirs have no interest in the property. I would speak another title company/underwriter in spite of their claim that “everyone does this”.</span><o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span class="mceItemHidden">Even if they are concerned about a claim, the brother has been dead over 20 years. If his heirs had an issue with title in the name of sister they would have objected years ago.</span><o:p></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black"><span class="mceItemHidden">Nestor <span class="mceItemHiddenSpellWord">Gorfinkel</span>, Attorney at Law</span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black"><span class="mceItemHidden">Licensed in Washington & Florida</span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black"><span class="mceItemHidden">Florida Civil-Law (International) Notary</span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:black"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"><span class="mceItemHidden">ATTENTION - This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. 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They are demanding that probate on 1</span><sup><span class="mceItemHidden">st</span></sup><span class="mceItemHidden"> deceased either be reopened or that all intestate heirs sign off on a veritable lack of probate affidavit style series of documents that they want.</span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F4E79"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F4E79"><span class="mceItemHidden">Basic facts:</span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F4E79"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F4E79"><span class="mceItemHidden">Mom died years ago. Deed from mom’s PR to brother and sister as <span class="mceItemHiddenSpellWord">JTWROS</span> was recorded. Brother died in 1995. Death certificate available. </span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F4E79"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F4E79"><span class="mceItemHidden">Probate opened, but of course this property did not go through probate. </span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F4E79"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F4E79"><span class="mceItemHidden">Good law firm so I assume that brother’s death certificate was recorded or provided, but of course, that is not available on-line.</span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F4E79"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F4E79"><span class="mceItemHidden">Sister died in 2017. Sister’s estate is selling the property. Preliminary commitment says that property is vested in the heirs & <span class="mceItemHiddenSpellWord">devisees</span> of both (deceased) sister and brother.</span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F4E79"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F4E79"><span class="mceItemHidden">Title company says it’s a “matter of policy” that any loose (my word) potential heirs of brother sign off for them to issue title insurance. They won’t recognize the <span class="mceItemHiddenSpellWord">JTWROS</span> status – which is clearly set forth on the deed.</span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F4E79"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F4E79"><span class="mceItemHidden">Title company tells me that every title company does this… </span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F4E79"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F4E79"><span class="mceItemHidden">Your thoughts?</span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F4E79"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F4E79"><span class="mceItemHidden">Best, Claudia</span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F4E79"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F4E79"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F4E79"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F4E79"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F4E79"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="color:#1F4E79"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><i><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:parkavenue;color:#1F4E79"><span class="mceItemHidden">Claudia A. <span class="mceItemHiddenSpellWord">Gowan</span></span><o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><i><span style="color:#1F4E79"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></i></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="color:#1F497D"><span class="mceItemHidden">Claudia A. <span class="mceItemHiddenSpellWord">Gowan</span>, <span class="mceItemHiddenSpellWord">PLLC</span></span><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="color:#1F497D"><span class="mceItemHidden">2101 Fourth Avenue, Suite 1900</span><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="color:#1F497D"><span class="mceItemHidden">Seattle, WA 98121</span><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="color:#1F497D"><span class="mceItemHidden">(206) 443-2733 (T)</span><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="color:#1F497D"><span class="mceItemHidden">(206) 448-</span></span><span style="color:#1F4E79"><span class="mceItemHidden">1843</span></span><span style="color:#1F497D"><span class="mceItemHidden"> (F)</span><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="color:#1F4E79"><a target="_blank" href="mailto:claudia@cagowanlaw.com"><span style="color:#1F4E79"><span class="mceItemHidden">claudia@cagowanlaw.com</span></span></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="color:#1F4E79"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="color:#1F4E79"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.seattletrustsandestates.com/"><span style="color:#1F4E79"><span class="mceItemHidden">www.seattletrustsandestates.com</span></span></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></div></div><div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br> <table style="border-top: 1px solid #D3D4DE;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="width: 55px; 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