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    <p>I agree with Eric's approach described below.  <br>
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    <p>Here's how I look at it:  If I do any work beyond the statutory
      requirement to make things easier for a creditor,  I'm working
      against the interests of my client.  And I'll wind up either
      charging my client for the time I spent helping out a party with
      interests adverse to my client's interest (which is not OK),  or
      I'll work for free for the creditor (which is not OK).  <br>
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    <p>Regards,</p>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Felicia Value
Attorney at Law
PO Box 578/116 N. Third
La Conner,  WA 98257
(360) 466-2088
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Felicia@skagitprobate.com">Felicia@skagitprobate.com</a></pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/22/2018 10:56 AM, Eric Nelsen
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
            tend to be draconian on this point and generally never
            supply additional information to a creditor. And I agree,
            the deadline to file a creditor claim is not tolled so long
            as the statutory notice has been provided.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">My
            attitude is, if an organization is big enough that it can't
            track its relationship with the decedent, then it deserves
            no accommodation beyond what is statutorily required. That
            is how the process works, and for big organizations it's
            only money as far as they are concerned. If they can't be
            bothered to track matters sufficient to protect their legal
            interest, I am not bothered by allowing the statutory
            process to bar their debt.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Obviously
            this never happens with small business creditors, personal
            loans from friends and family members, etc. Because they
            know the decedent and they have no confusion about who has
            died. It's only banks, credit cards, collection agencies,
            and the like who end up barred in these circumstances.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">In
            terms of the PR's duties, I think the PR's duty is to
            provide the statutory notice and no more. There is no duty
            to provide more information to a creditor.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Eric<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Eric
            C. Nelsen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">SAYRE
            LAW OFFICES, PLLC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">1417
            31st Ave South<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Seattle
            WA  98144-3909<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">phone
            206-625-0092<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">fax
            206-625-9040<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
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            <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>
            [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>]
            <b>On Behalf Of </b>Thomas Hackett<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:30 AM<br>
            <b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
            <b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Notice to Known Creditors in Estate
            w/o Non-Intervention Powers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Listmates-<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">I have a question on creditor notices
              to known creditors. PR was appointed w/o non-intervention
              powers. We published notice, then sent notice per RCW
              11.40.030 to known creditors 90 days later. One of the
              creditors responded to our notice that "Can not process or
              verify without the patient's date of birth." We did
              include the reference number for the invoice from this
              creditor in our cover letter to the creditor. <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Do we have any obligation to provide
              the decedent's date of birth to this creditor? I don't
              think this request by the creditor tolls the 30 day period
              for the creditor to make the claim provided we complied
              with RCW 11.40.030. <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Interested to know others experiences
              and insights on this situation. Thank you in advance.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                        A. Hackett</span></b><span
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                                      Attorney | NW Legacy Law Center,
                                      P.S.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Felicia Value
Attorney at Law
PO Box 578/116 N. Third
La Conner,  WA 98257
(360) 466-2088
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