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<p>I agree with Eric's approach described below. <br>
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<p>Here's how I look at it: If I do any work beyond the statutory
requirement to make things easier for a creditor, I'm working
against the interests of my client. And I'll wind up either
charging my client for the time I spent helping out a party with
interests adverse to my client's interest (which is not OK), or
I'll work for free for the creditor (which is not OK). <br>
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<p>Regards,</p>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Felicia Value
Attorney at Law
PO Box 578/116 N. Third
La Conner, WA 98257
(360) 466-2088
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/22/2018 10:56 AM, Eric Nelsen
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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tend to be draconian on this point and generally never
supply additional information to a creditor. And I agree,
the deadline to file a creditor claim is not tolled so long
as the statutory notice has been provided.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">My
attitude is, if an organization is big enough that it can't
track its relationship with the decedent, then it deserves
no accommodation beyond what is statutorily required. That
is how the process works, and for big organizations it's
only money as far as they are concerned. If they can't be
bothered to track matters sufficient to protect their legal
interest, I am not bothered by allowing the statutory
process to bar their debt.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Obviously
this never happens with small business creditors, personal
loans from friends and family members, etc. Because they
know the decedent and they have no confusion about who has
died. It's only banks, credit cards, collection agencies,
and the like who end up barred in these circumstances.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">In
terms of the PR's duties, I think the PR's duty is to
provide the statutory notice and no more. There is no duty
to provide more information to a creditor.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Eric<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Eric
C. Nelsen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">SAYRE
LAW OFFICES, PLLC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">1417
31st Ave South<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">phone
206-625-0092<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">fax
206-625-9040<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Thomas Hackett<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 22, 2018 10:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Notice to Known Creditors in Estate
w/o Non-Intervention Powers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have a question on creditor notices
to known creditors. PR was appointed w/o non-intervention
powers. We published notice, then sent notice per RCW
11.40.030 to known creditors 90 days later. One of the
creditors responded to our notice that "Can not process or
verify without the patient's date of birth." We did
include the reference number for the invoice from this
creditor in our cover letter to the creditor. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Do we have any obligation to provide
the decedent's date of birth to this creditor? I don't
think this request by the creditor tolls the 30 day period
for the creditor to make the claim provided we complied
with RCW 11.40.030. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Interested to know others experiences
and insights on this situation. Thank you in advance.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Felicia Value
Attorney at Law
PO Box 578/116 N. Third
La Conner, WA 98257
(360) 466-2088
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Felicia@skagitprobate.com">Felicia@skagitprobate.com</a></pre>
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