<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Hi List - </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I am very interested in these conversations for both professional and personal reasons.  Having now looked at the form, I am curious as to whether there may be any enforcement issues given that it lacks witnesses attestations / notary? Would this override a Medical DPOA and force the hand of the agent-in-fact?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">My normal interaction with clients is to advise them to share their feelings on these issues and be sure to select AIF that would do what they wanted.....but as we all know that best laid plans....</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Appreciate any thoughts or feedback. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Brent</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 10:51 AM, Paul Neumiller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pneumiller@hotmail.com" target="_blank">pneumiller@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Cyrus Field<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 29, 2018 10:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv' <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Elder Law Section listserv' <<a href="mailto:elder-law-section@list.wsba.org" target="_blank">elder-law-section@list.wsba.<wbr>org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Dementia Directive form<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Cyrus W. Field, Attorney at Law (admitted in Washington and Oregon)<u></u><u></u></span></i></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Teunis J. Wyers<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Dementia Directive form<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This looks like an innovative and useful document, but what about the copyright?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 7:58 AM, Doug Schafer <<a href="mailto:schafer@pobox.com" target="_blank">schafer@pobox.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Today's Tacoma newspaper, The News Tribune, included an article about UW School of Medicine's Dr. Barak Gaster's development and public distribution of a form by which patients anticipating (or diagnosed with) dementia may express their
 care preferences in advance of the progressively severe stages of dementia.<br>
The form is available at <a href="https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdementia-directive.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C6c59ee577f6142d4262a08d567459af3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636528471008089742&sdata=JgmD9i0Z%2BwdQTXoUrZqV1ONYxR4%2BeNOsY5tsQv3Fls8%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">
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