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<DIV><FONT size=4>yes.. me too. But I didn’t do this will.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=lisa@lisaschuchman.com
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [WSBAPT] Life Estate Question</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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a life estate works. I use a simple house trust when they want those
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<P class=MsoNormal><B>From:</B> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com
[mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Josh
Grant<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 17, 2017 3:54 PM<BR><B>To:</B> WSBA
Probate & Trust Listserv
<wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [WSBAPT] Life Estate
Question<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; COLOR: black">I have a
similar case. Testator said “I give a life estate to GF for her life or until
she vacates the residence for 60 continual days”. I hate to have the PR of
the Estate give a deed to her granting her a life estate, because GF could leave
and we would not be able to get clear title until we were able to get a death
certificate, and the kids who take back possession want to fix it and sell
it. What kind of deed would be propose to the Judge? Deed to kids
and no mention of the right to reside? And acknowledge in an unrecorded
document the right to reside?</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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title=ScottKee@buddbaylaw.com href="mailto:ScottKee@buddbaylaw.com">Scott
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Tuesday, October 17, 2017 12:14 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif; COLOR: black'>To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
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title=wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com
href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</A>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif; COLOR: black'>Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma",sans-serif; COLOR: black'>
[WSBAPT] Life Estate Question<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">In his will, the decedent left
property to his kids, but reserved a life estate his girlfriend. The
specific language is . . .”Girlfriend is entitled to reside in the real property
located at . . . . <B>provided she pays the taxes and insurance on the
property. </B>The residue of the estate goes to kids.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">There is an underlying mortgage on
the property and the decedent made no provision for, and did not mention, the
mortgage. In addition, maintenance has become an issue.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Girlfriend is taking the position
that she is not responsible for the mortgage or maintenance as the decedent did
not expressly indicate as much(see In Re Estate of Campbell) and she is not the
ultimate beneficiary. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Kids are taking the position that
Girlfriend is the devisee(see RCW 11.12.70) and therefore she is responsible for
mortgage and maintenance. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Thoughts?
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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