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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I am not sure that most title companies “like” the lack of probate affidavit. We do “accept” the lack of probate affidavit; probably because:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Many people don’t have the money, or want to spend the money, to go through a probate proceeding, and/or<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>If I don’t agree to insure through the lack of probate affidavit “Brand X Title Company” will.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>We do believe that our risk of loss on these is low since we try to wring out the facts pretty well before we insure. I do however advise the customers that they are probably better served by the probate procedure, for the reasons you set out below.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>You summed it up nicely: “The best practice is the PR Deed.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>John McCrady<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Puget Sound Title Company<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>5350 Orchard Street West<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>University Place WA 98467<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>253-476-5721<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>j.mccrady@pstitle.com<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Doran<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:15 AM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Lender not accepting Lack of Probate Aff<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>This lender not accepting "Lack of probate Affidavit" has come up a few times. I have often wondered about the effectiveness of such an Affidavit. I may be "old school" on this but isn't the chain of title much more solid with a Personal Representative Deed though probate? And, if timing matters, there is no requirement for the Notice to Creditors and the four month waiting period. <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>In my "old school" opinion, I think title companies like the Lack of Probate Affidavit so they are willing to guarantee on that. But the best practice is the PR Deed. <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Jim Doran<br> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>James R. Doran<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Attorney at Law<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>100 E. Pine Street - Suite 205<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Bellingham, WA 98225<br>(360)393-9506<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:jim@doranlegal.com" target="_blank">jim@doranlegal.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.doranlegal.com" target="_blank">www.doranlegal.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Eric Nelsen <<a href="mailto:Eric@sayrelawoffices.com" target="_blank">Eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I'm not sure transferring ownership will solve the problem. Garn St. Germain Act prevents lender from foreclosing on someone who inherits a property, so I don't know what the lender is balking at. If heir just keeps sending in payments, there shouldn't be an issue. Or does the heir need to talk to the lender for some other reason?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Sincerely,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Eric</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Eric C. Nelsen</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>SAYRE LAW OFFICES, PLLC</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>1417 31st Ave South</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Seattle WA 98144-3909</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>phone <a href="tel:(206)%20625-0092" target="_blank">206-625-0092</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>fax <a href="tel:(206)%20625-9040" target="_blank">206-625-9040</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:red'>Please Note that We Have Moved.</span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>We have moved our Seattle office to Mount Baker Ridge (a small commercial community just above the I-90 tunnel). <b>Our new address is 1417 31st Avenue South, Seattle WA 98144. </b>All other contact information remains the same.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Atkins<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 18, 2017 9:24 AM<br><b>To:</b> PROBATE -REAL PROP SECTION<br><b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Lender not accepting Lack of Probate Aff</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m7092369887075513135mceitemhidden><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:blue'>All:</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m7092369887075513135mceitemhidden><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:blue'>2004, Small estate so Atty used Lack of Probate </span></span><span class=m7092369887075513135mceitemhiddenspellword><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:blue'>Aff</span></span><span class=m7092369887075513135mceitemhidden><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:blue'> . New lender is not accepting heir as owner. Does he need to open probate and QC to self?</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m7092369887075513135mceitemhidden><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:blue'>Thanks</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m7092369887075513135mceitemhidden><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:blue'>Mike</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:blue'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:blue'><img border=0 width=500 height=100 id="m_7092369887075513135sigimg1" src="cid:image001.png@01D30144.3DEECB20"></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>_______________________________________________<br>WSBAPT mailing list<br><a href="mailto:WSBAPT@lists.wsbarppt.com">WSBAPT@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br><a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbapt" target="_blank">http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbapt</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>