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Subject: Re: [<span class="mceItemHiddenSpellWord">WSBAPT</span>] Lender not accepting Lack of Probate <span class="mceItemHiddenSpellWord">Aff</span></span><br><span class="mceItemHidden">
From: Jim <span class="mceItemHiddenSpellWord">Doran</span> <<a href="mailto:jim@doranlegal.com">jim@doranlegal.com</a>></span><br><span class="mceItemHidden">
Date: Thu, July 20, 2017 10:14 am</span><br><span class="mceItemHidden">
To: "WSBA Probate & Trust <span class="mceItemHiddenSpellWord">Listserv</span>" <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>></span><br><span class="mceItemHidden">
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</span><div dir="ltr"><div><div><span class="mceItemHidden">This lender not accepting "Lack of probate Affidavit" has come up a few times.  I have often wondered about the effectiveness of such an Affidavit.  I may be "old school" on this but isn't the chain of title much more solid with a Personal Representative Deed though probate?  And, if timing matters, there is no requirement for the Notice to Creditors and the four month waiting period.  </span><br><br></div><span class="mceItemHidden">In my "old school" opinion, I think title companies like the Lack of Probate Affidavit so they are willing to guarantee on that.  But the best practice is the PR Deed.  </span><br><br></div><span class="mceItemHidden">Jim <span class="mceItemHiddenSpellWord">Doran</span></span><br><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><span class="mceItemHidden">James R. <span class="mceItemHiddenSpellWord">Doran</span></span><br></div><span class="mceItemHidden">Attorney at Law</span><br></div><span class="mceItemHidden">100 E. Pine Street -  Suite 205</span><br></div><span class="mceItemHidden">Bellingham, WA 98225</span><br><span class="mceItemHidden">(360)393-9506</span><br></div><a href="mailto:jim@doranlegal.com" target="_blank"><span class="mceItemHidden">jim@doranlegal.com</span></a><br></div><a href="http://www.doranlegal.com" target="_blank"><span class="mceItemHidden">www.doranlegal.com</span></a><br></div></div></div> <br><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="mceItemHidden">On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Eric Nelsen </span><span dir="ltr"><span class="mceItemHidden"><</span><a href="mailto:Eric@sayrelawoffices.com" target="_blank"><span class="mceItemHidden">Eric@sayrelawoffices.com</span></a><span class="mceItemHidden">></span></span><span class="mceItemHidden"> wrote:</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"> <div class="m_7092369887075513135WordSection1"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span class="mceItemHidden">I'm not sure transferring ownership will solve the problem. <span class="mceItemHiddenSpellWord">Garn</span> St. Germain Act prevents lender from foreclosing on someone who inherits a property, so I don't know what the lender is balking at. If heir just keeps sending in payments, there shouldn't be an issue. Or does the heir need to talk to the lender for some other reason?</span><u></u><u></u></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span><u></u></span></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span class="mceItemHidden">Sincerely,</span><u></u><u></u></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span><u></u></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span class="mceItemHidden">Eric</span><u></u><u></u></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span><u></u></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span class="mceItemHidden">Eric C. Nelsen</span><u></u><u></u></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span class="mceItemHidden">SAYRE LAW OFFICES, <span class="mceItemHiddenSpellWord">PLLC</span></span><u></u><u></u></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span class="mceItemHidden">1417 31st Ave South</span><u></u><u></u></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span class="mceItemHidden">Seattle WA  98144-3909</span><u></u><u></u></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span class="mceItemHidden">phone </span><a href="tel:(206)%20625-0092" value="+12066250092" target="_blank"><span class="mceItemHidden">206-625-0092</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span class="mceItemHidden">fax </span><a href="tel:(206)%20625-9040" value="+12066259040" target="_blank"><span class="mceItemHidden">206-625-9040</span></a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