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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I agree that you are following the black letter law but, once again, on a practical basis, are you really helping move your client’s matter forward? I agree
that you need to file the original Will if found at a later time BUT if it changes nothing, why do anything further (or more to the point, spend your client’s money amending the petition (even if it’s easy to do))? I agree that, if the Will is found first,
I would ask the court for Letters Testamentary instead of Letters of Administration. But what could happen later if you didn’t? Could a beneficiary or a creditor argue at a later time that there is PR liability simply because the PR didn’t convert the Letters
of Administration into Letters Testamentary? On what basis could a beneficiary or a creditor argue that he or she has been harmed by the PR not converting the Letters of Administration to Letters Testamentary absent some other reason? Does Letters Testamentary
give your PR greater powers or more protection than Letters of Administration?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I acknowledge that attorneys are a conservative lot and we wish to avoid being the test case so we tend to finesse the issue by simply doing things the same way
they have always been done if, for no other reason, than to placate our malpractice carriers. Please understand that I am playing Devil’s Advocate a little here and maybe I have more cynical clients than normal, but if a client asked me why should the client
pay me to do an act that may have no impact, I don’t really want to fall back on that old attorney chestnut, “That’s the “LAW” so we HAVE to do it that way.” Yes, spitting on the sidewalk is illegal but if there is no penalty for spitting on the sidewalk,
shouldn’t I, as an attorney advising a client, advise the client of the law AND that there is no penalty for breaking the law.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Maybe, in this case, the saying “no harm, no foul” applies.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dalynne Singleton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 18, 2017 1:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Will found after probate filed - now what?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Verdana Pro"">If it is a valid will, it cannot be ignored and must be filed. After that, heirs/beneficiaries can agree amongst themselves on distributions different from the Will – TEDRA.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Verdana Pro"">It should be a simple amended petition indicating you found the will and it is being filed. This changes the probate to testacy and the letters should be reissued as testamentary
not letters of administration.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>John J. Sullivan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 18, 2017 1:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Will found after probate filed - now what?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think the Will has to actually be admitted to probate. <span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On Jul 18, 2017, at 9:19 AM, Paul Neumiller <<a href="mailto:pneumiller@hotmail.com">pneumiller@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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heir beneficiaries but it seems to me that if the Administrator has nonintervention powers and if the Will doesn’t change the distribution, why petition the court to change from Letters of Administration to Letters Testamentary? What does that gain the client?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>John J. Sullivan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 17, 2017 6:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Will found after probate filed - now what?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Had this happen once or twice. As I recall the petition is to appoint administrator PR "with Will annexed."<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Jul 17, 2017, at 10:34 AM, Christopher Small <<a href="mailto:chris@cmslawfirm.com">chris@cmslawfirm.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1. Filed intestate probate believing no will.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">2. Will found naming person we petitioned to be named administrator PR.<o:p></o:p></p>
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