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<DIV><FONT size=4>That is interesting hypothetical in extending the effect of a
district court judgment. It seems to me no matter what happens the client
won’t see much money. Isn’t it as simple as telling DSHS about the new
info and the additional prior judgment lien (prior to their lien) and they will
take 80% of the new amount left over after judgments are paid in full?
Somehow it seems more satisfactory to pay off court judgments than DSHS
liens.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=djbratt@mbavancouverlaw.com
href="mailto:djbratt@mbavancouverlaw.com">Douglas Bratt</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 15, 2017 5:48 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=tjw@w3net.net
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title=wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">WSBA
Probate & Trust Listserv</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [WSBAPT] Enforceability of Judgment Lien Related to
Closingof Sale of Real Property by Estate</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Correct, Tom. I was sent
the Preliminary Title Report to be able to prepare the Personal Representative’s
Deed just recently, and I was quite surprised to see mention of this
judgment. There was absolutely no evidence of this problem in the
Decedent’s personal files and records. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">The costs of sale, the amounts
owed on the first mortgage, renovation costs by a contractor who did his work
under an agreement to be paid out of escrow, plus what I am guessing could be
the maximum amount of the judgment in question, plus interest, is still less
than the sales price, with money also there to cover costs of administration of
the probate.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">The house is the only
significant asset belonging to the Estate.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">The complication is that DSHS
Office of Financial Recovery has filed a very large Creditor’s Claim in the
probate for Medicaid extended to the Decedent, and we had reached an agreement
with DSHS for them to accept 80% of the remaining net proceeds from the sale (or
at least what we had estimated would be the remaining net proceeds, not taking
into account the judgment about which we had no knowledge), in exchange for a
Satisfaction of Creditor’s Claim, with the remaining 20% of the net sale
proceeds to go to the family of the Decedent. (I understand that this is
an arrangement to which DSHS often agrees in these sort of cases and I have done
this a number of times.) We had been working under the assumption that
only the first mortgage would have to be cleared, so our estimate of net
proceeds was significantly greater than it would be if the full judgment, plus
full interest, is going to have to go to the Judgment
Creditor.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">I think your interpleader idea
is a good one under the circumstances, because there is a bit of a push for
closing, because the lender documents have finally been delivered to the
LPO. Because previous negotiations with DSHS involved different
assumptions, the task is to get them to go along with the lesser amount to go to
DSHS, given the introduction of this judgment lien that the PR had no knowledge
was even in existence, much less the extent of the possible claim for interest
because almost ten years has gone by since the transcript of the original
District Court Judgment was filed with the Superior Court Clerk.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">However, I am not sure if the
Title Company will go along with an interpleader, since the statute seems to
make clear that the judgment is still less than ten years old since the cited
statute tells us to go back to the filing date in <U>Superior Court</U> of the
transcript of the District Court judgment. We are in an interesting
time-line. The District Court judgment is now more than ten years
old. However, given the filing of the transcript with the Superior Court
about a year after the original District Court judgment, we are within the ten
year period during which the judgment creditor could renew the judgment if
he/she petitions to do so within 90 days of October 20, 2017. I don’t
think that putting the judgment creditor to the test of whether or not he/she
petitions to renew the judgment for ten years within 90 days of October 20,
2017, will fly, because as of the date of the proposed closing of the sale
transaction, isn’t the Judgment lien still attached to the real property
involved. I can’t see the title company not wanting to gain clearance of
this judgment lien prior to issuing its title policy by the direct payoff of the
judgment lien as it exists today. Besides that, the LPO was working on
contacting the attorney for the Judgment Creditor to get a payoff figure.
(One doubts that the attorney will even remember all that went on in a case that
took place in 2006/2007, but of such surprises, windfalls might well result.)
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Dealing with DSHS to clear its
Creditor’s Claim in this fashion has been something that has worked quite well
in the past, but this experience has led me to believe that we should not even
open up discussions with DSHS prior to getting a Preliminary Title Report to
discover evidence of any unknown liens and encumbrances, that will affect the
bottom line of net sale proceeds. Now, I have to go back to DSHS and reveal that
the expected net proceeds are significantly less than we had first
discussed. It would have been easier to have announced that the probable
net proceeds was a figure that took into account that previously unknown
judgment lien. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Thanks for your input,
Tom.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Doug Bratt<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">P.S. The other interesting
facet of this case is that my study of the statute leads me to believe that the
following would be possible in situations in which the transcript of a District
Court Judgment is filed with the Superior Court. Subsection 7 of RCW
6.17.020 says very clearly that the no judgment is enforceable beyond twenty
years from the date of entry in the “originating court.” However,
subsection 7 carves out an exception (citing subsection 3 of RCW 6.17.020) in
cases where the transcript of the District Court Judgment is filed with the
Superior Court, essentially saying that if a person obtained a District Court
Judgment in Year 1 and filed a Transcript of that Judgment in Superior Court in
Year 9, the person could apply for a ten year extension anytime within 90 days
of the ten year period after the date of filing of the transcript of judgment in
Superior Court, which, in the cited example, would make the judgment enforceable
till year 29. Admittedly, that would be an extreme set of facts, but it is
possible when the transcript of the District Court judgment is filed with the
Superior Court many years after the rendering of the judgment in the originating
court. Here, it was only a year later, but nothing would prevent it from
being filed in Superior Court in year 9 or even year 9 plus 364 days.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Tom Westbrook<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 15, 2017 4:31
PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[WSBAPT] Enforceability of Judgment Lien Related to Closing of Sale of Real
Property by Estate<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: #44546a'>Not sure what is meant
by suddenly, but I assume you mean upon receiving a copy of the preliminary
title report. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: #44546a'>Assuming, without
knowing, the judgment is less than the sale price, why not ask your title
company (escrow) to hold back the amount of funds from the judgment out of
closing and hold onto it until October 20<SUP>th</SUP> (or whatever date) and if
the judgment isn’t renewed by then they can pay it out to the estate. Or they
can interplead it into the Court registry and let you fight over it later.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: #44546a'>Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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[WSBAPT] Enforceability of Judgment Lien Related to Closing of Sale of Real
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<P class=MsoNormal>Hello Listmates:<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>We are close to closing a sale of a residence by an
Estate. <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Suddenly, I find out about an old judgment.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>The judgment, for just under $20K, was entered in District
Court in the county in which the Estate-owned real estate is located on
September 25, 2006. A Transcript of the District Court Judgment was then
filed in the Superior Court in the same county on October 19, 2007. The
judgment was subsequently recorded on October 22, 2007, with the Auditor of the
same county. It is showing up as an exception on a Title Policy
Commitment, and the escrow closer is in the midst of making inquiry about a
payoff figure for the judgment from the Judgment Creditor’s
Attorney.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>As I understand the law related to judgments, the judgment is
enforceable for ten years after entry, but that period can be extended an
additional ten years by petitioning the court that entered the judgment within
90 days of the expiration of the original ten years. <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>However, sadly, I find that under RCW 6.17.020(3), if a
District Court judgment has been transcribed to the Superior Court, the petition
is not to be filed in District Court, and thus be tied to the ten year
anniversary of the entry of the District Court Judgment. Rather, the Petition to
extend is to be filed in the Superior Court and the Petition must be filed
within 90 days of the expiration of the ten year period after the date the
transcript of judgment was filed in <U>the Superior Court</U>, not the District
Court. So, even though relating back to the original date of the District
Court judgment would have been supremely helpful, the statute means that the
Judgment Creditor would have until October 19, 2017, to file the Petition to
extend the judgment. <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>The Decedent died on September 3, 2017. The first date of
publication of the Notice to Creditors took place on October 7, 2016.
Thus, the four-month period for Creditor’s Claims expired on February 7,
2017. The Judgment Creditor did not file a Creditor’s Claim. In addition,
the PR found no evidence of the judgment when making the PR’s reasonable search
to ascertain the identity of Creditors to determine which creditors, if any,
were to get actual notice. However, I am not thinking that of the Judgment
Creditor to file a Creditor’s Claim in the probate will defeat the lien of
judgment on the real estate owned by the Decedent. <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>My initial conclusion is that we are SOL on trying to escape
liability on the judgment, due to the fact that the lien of judgment attaches to
the real estate of the judgment debtor, and it does not appear that the judgment
debtor’s death nor any defenses under the Creditor’s Claim statute will help us
in escaping the effect of the judgment, with the real estate closing becoming
the means of collection for the Judgment Creditor. <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Any contrary thoughts about the possibility of escaping
liability on this judgment?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Thank you for your collective knowledge.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Regards,<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Doug Bratt<o:p></o:p></P>
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