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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Thanks for the response, Sara. Enjoy the weather.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sara Longley<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 27, 2017 1:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] creditor's claim amount<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>My memory of the statute is that without actual notice an ascertainable creditor gets the longer claim period. I agree that telling them debt details is unnecessary; normally I just send a copy of the published Notice.<br><br><br>Sara D. Longley, JD, LL.M.<br>1734 NW Market Street <br>Seattle, WA 98107<br>(206)434-5644<br><a href="mailto:Sara@Longley-law.pro">Sara@Longley-law.pro</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:marilyn@marilynjklimanlaw.com">Marilyn J Kliman Law</a></span><br><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Sent: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>5/27/2017 1:30 PM</span><br><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>To: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv'</a></span><br><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Subject: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Re: [WSBAPT] creditor's claim amount</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Thanks, Sara. I think my equivocation is that the bank as an entity HAS notice– hence their filed claim against the 3 credit cards. When I send Notice, I never specify the debt – only state “<i>We have information indicating that the decedent may have been indebted to you</i>.” My gut is that it isn’t the PR’s job to say “Whoops…. You missed one.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>No?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentColor currentColor;border-image: none'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sara Longley<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 27, 2017 1:15 PM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] creditor's claim amount<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Hi Marilyn,<br><br>The estate is not obligated to send notice, but it sounds as though the bank is an ascertainable creditor and therefore could assert the 24 month claim period if they are not given actual notice.<br><br>I am not at my computer so I cannot double check my instinct, but if the line of credit is secured I believe the bank can assert its rights regardless of the probate claim period.<br><br>Best,<br>Sara <br><br><br>Sara D. Longley, JD, LL.M.<br>1734 NW Market Street <br>Seattle, WA 98107<br>(206)434-5644<br><a href="mailto:Sara@Longley-law.pro">Sara@Longley-law.pro</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:marilyn@marilynjklimanlaw.com">Marilyn J Kliman Law</a></span><br><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Sent: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>5/27/2017 11:43 AM</span><br><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>To: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv</a></span><br><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Subject: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>[WSBAPT] creditor's claim amount</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Just in case anyone is out there today ….. I am spending way too much time trying to research this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Decedent left debt to Bank of America for 3 credit cards and line of credit. Bank of America has filed a claim for the credit cards, but not for the line of credit. Presumably they filed based on published notice, as we did not send direct notice. Is PR obligated to send direct notice to the same claimant re: additional debt for the line of credit?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Rage Italic";background:white'>Marilyn J.Kliman<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";background:white'>Marilyn J. 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