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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#0F243E">Well, Eileen, wouldn’t a title company record the unrecorded deed? To not record it is to send 25% of the house off in another direction, against the wishes
of the grantor and grantee.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Peterson, Eileen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 18, 2017 5:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Recorder's office issue<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Franklin Gothic Book","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I agree. However, be aware: a title company is unlikely to accept a deed that is unrecorded at death. But, that is a separate issue. Good luck!
Eileen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F6062">Eileen S. Peterson<br>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Eric Nelsen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 18, 2017 5:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Recorder's office issue<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I agree, the deed is a valid conveyance at time of delivery to A in 2005. KCR is wrong for suggesting inheritance as the proper exemption, and DOR is wrong for suggesting the conveyance was invalid merely because
not recorded. Recording is just notice to third parties, and has nothing to do with validity of conveyance.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Is it a gift? Since they were married at that point, could you use WAC 458-61A-203, to establish separate property in one spouse?
<a href="http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=458-61A-203">http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=458-61A-203</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">For signatures on the REETA, I agree you have PR signing on behalf of Grantee A's Estate, but I think you need a valid representative for B to sign as Grantor--B's child, perhaps? I'm not sure about PR's authority
to act as agent for B's separate property Estate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">If B's child is not cooperative, perhaps you could get A appointed as PR of B's estate merely for that purpose. It's a hassle but could work. (Might analyze potential conflict of interest, as PR of B's estate
would have fiduciary duty to B's heirs.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">What's the hypothetical value of B's heir's 25% interest in the real estate? Perhaps least expensive would be to pay B's heir something to sign the REETA, plus an affidavit of no probate or something similar,
or show that B is the sole person with any hypothetical interest in B's estate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">If KCR or DOR still balks at allowing the REETA, I think you need to take it up the chain at DOR to a lawyer there.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Alternatively: perhaps file a quiet title action alleging the existence of the unrecorded deed, name B's heir as defendant, and get a judgment quieting title in A's estate (or in A's heirs if you're ready to
distribute).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">All my off-the-cuff thoughts; I haven't tried any of these solutions myself.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">Eric<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Karl Flaccus<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 18, 2017 4:16 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#0F243E">B has a child. A and B (unmarried) buy a house in Seattle as tenants in common. Later they marry. At the time of marriage the two halves of the house
are separate property. B has an illness, and signs a quit claim deed to A in 2005. Everything is proper about the quit claim deed. B dies intestate in 2012. A does not record the quit claim deed. A dies in 2016. I represent the personal representative
of A’s estate. Nothing goes in A’s estate to B’s child. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#0F243E">The PR brings me the unrecorded quit claim deed. We complete a REETA and a supplemental gift form. On both forms the PR signs as PR for A, and merely as
representative for B. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#0F243E">King County Recorders office rejected the deed, stating in writing “if both parties are deceased, the inheritance/202 would make more sense. Review 202(6f)
and provide copy of letters testamentary.” We called to say, no this was a gift at the time, it was not an inheritance, and to contend that it was would be false. The recorder’s office was stumped and transferred to the Department of Revenue. The Department
of Review representative stated to my paralegal that although she was not a lawyer, she believe the deed was an “invalid conveyance” because it was not recorded at the time, and therefore they would not record the deed under any circumstances because A and
B were not alive to sign the supplemental statement. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#0F243E">They are wrong to not record the deed. Deeds merely need to be “in writing, signed by the party bound thereby, and acknowledged by the party” before a notary.
It is risky to not record a deed, but a deed is valid at the time of execution.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#0F243E">Any ideas out there concerning what hoops we need to jump through to get this deed recorded?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#0F243E">Thanks.
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