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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Thanks, Paul. We fully intend to deduct compensation for the PR’s time. But that reminds me … was wondering what folks thought about a reasonable per hour amount. Since son lives in Maine, he unavoidably missed work for almost 2 weeks, so $30/hr or the amount of lost wages? Opinions?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Neumiller<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 09, 2017 11:19 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] what qualifies as a cost of administration?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Not sure why you are limiting the PR recovery to only reimbursement of out-of-pocket expenses. I have seen judges award PR fees and compensation for cleaning out residences in order to prepare them for sale of $30 per hour. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><a name="Paul_Neumiller"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img width=250 height=150 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image002.jpg@01D298C8.AABFE6B0"></span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Marilyn J Kliman Law<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 9, 2017 10:33 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv' <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] what qualifies as a cost of administration?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Folks –<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Out-of-state sole surviving heir, son of decedent & appointed PR, had to come here to clean up hoarder mom’s house to make it saleable. He spent substantial time away from work and bookoo bucks for cleaning, hauling, etc,, in addition to the cost of airfare. Normally, of course, it wouldn’t matter how costs were categorized as it would eventually all come out of the same pot for a sole heir. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>However, DSHS has a substantial lien on the house – the only asset – likely exceeding the value of the property. They have agreed to accept a reduced percentage but, depending on what the house sells for, the DSHS recovery may eat up what’s left when it’s their turn, a la RCW 11.76.110, leaving nothing for the son. Seems only reasonable that, at very least, son should not end up in the negative for out-of-pocket costs. (We did negotiate the reduced lien with DSHS before advising son to even open probate vs. walking away, but son has since discovered greater debt than anticipated.) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>So … I have not found any definitive law or rule as to what constitutes “costs of administration.” Technically, is maximizing the estate value by coming here and cleaning up the house an administrative expense? My thought at this point is to submit all out-of-pocket costs as expenses and let DSHS object if they care to.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Thoughts and wisdom?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";background:white'>Marilyn J. Kliman, Attorney at Law</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";background:white'>Marilyn J. 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