<html><body><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#0000ff; font-size:14pt;"><div><span class="mceItemHidden">Thx Heather - Well partner died last. The lien did not exceed Medicaid partner's interest. But if court finds a CIR, wouldn't lien be joint? </span></div><div><br></div><div><img id="sigimg1" title="signature image" src="cid:sigimg1@51bc1ee2726ae1ba50e1a5665c88c083" border="0" alt=""></div><div><br><br></div><span class="mceItemHidden">
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Subject: Re: [<span class="mceItemHiddenSpellWord">WSBAPT</span>] Finding a CIR- Meretricious Relationship for a</span><br><span class="mceItemHidden">
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From: Heather <span class="mceItemHiddenSpellWord">deVrieze</span> <<a href="mailto:heatherd@westseattlelaw.com">heatherd@westseattlelaw.com</a>></span><br><span class="mceItemHidden">
Date: Tue, January 17, 2017 4:21 pm</span><br><span class="mceItemHidden">
To: WSBA Probate & Trust <span class="mceItemHiddenSpellWord">Listserv</span> <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>></span><br><span class="mceItemHidden">
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</span></style> <div class="WordSection1"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><span class="mceItemHidden">If they are both on title, I think the starting position is 50-50 ownership, and the lien cannot exceed the ownership interest of the Medicaid recipient. If you want to argue something other than 50-50, it might get more complicated. Though you say both are deceased, you don’t indicate who died first, and what the disposition of that estate should have been. If well partner died first, bequeathing property to Medicaid partner, maybe a lien on 100% of the value is appropriate.</span><o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><span class="mceItemHidden">Heather</span><o:p></o:p></span></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Vladimir Script";color:#1F497D"><span class="mceItemHidden">Heather S. <span class="mceItemHiddenSpellWord">de</span> <span class="mceItemHiddenSpellWord">Vrieze</span></span></span><b><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><br> </span></b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1F497D"><span class="mceItemHidden">Attorney-at-Law</span><o:p></o:p></span></i></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1F497D"><img width="189" height="105" id="_x0000_i1027" src="cid:image004.jpg@01D270DD.C14D7D10" alt="cid:image001.jpg@01D013C2.30F35160" wbeuser="matkins@michaelatkinslaw.com"></span></i><i><span style="font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></i></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Nyala;color:#44524E"><span class="mceItemHidden">3909 California Avenue SW</span><o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Nyala;color:#44524E"><span class="mceItemHidden">Seattle, WA 98116-3705 </span><o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Nyala;color:#44524E"><span class="mceItemHidden">(206)938-5500 </span><o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><a target="_blank" href="mailto:heatherd@westseattlelaw.com"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Nyala;color:#44524E"><span class="mceItemHidden">heatherd@westseattlelaw.com</span></span></a></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Nyala;color:#44524E"> <o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.westseattlelaw.com/"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Nyala;color:#44524E"><span class="mceItemHidden">www.westseattlelaw.com</span></span></a></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Nyala;color:#44524E"> <o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002E8A"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></b></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002E8A"><span class="mceItemHidden">Click here to connect with <span class="mceItemHiddenSpellWord">de</span> <span class="mceItemHiddenSpellWord">Vrieze</span> | Carney on Facebook: </span></span></b><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></span></b><a target="_blank" href="https://www.facebook.com/DeVriezeCarney"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:blue;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="72" height="21" id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image005.png@01D270DD.C14D7D10" alt="FB Logo" wbeuser="matkins@michaelatkinslaw.com"></span></b></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Nyala;color:#44524E"><o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#A6A6A6"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#A6A6A6"><span class="mceItemHidden">CONFIDENTIAL & PRIVILEGED. 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If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this e-mail message and any attachment.</span></span><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:blue"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div> <div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span class="mceItemHidden">From:</span></span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span class="mceItemHidden"> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] </span><b><span class="mceItemHidden">On Behalf Of </span></b><span class="mceItemHidden">Michael Atkins</span><br> <b><span class="mceItemHidden">Sent:</span></b><span class="mceItemHidden"> Tuesday, January 17, 2017 3:55 PM</span><br> <b><span class="mceItemHidden">To:</span></b><span class="mceItemHidden"> PROBATE -REAL PROP SECTION <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>></span><br> <b><span class="mceItemHidden">Subject:</span></b><span class="mceItemHidden"> [<span class="mceItemHiddenSpellWord">WSBAPT</span>] Finding a CIR- Meretricious Relationship for a decedent?</span><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:blue"><span class="mceItemHidden">All:</span><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:blue"><span class="mceItemHidden">How does probate assign DSHS lien on real property for one party (H) of a 20+ year CIR ? Parties are both deceased. They took out a marriage license years ago and they are listed on real property as H&W but no record of a marriage license being recorded. </span><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:blue"><span class="mceItemHidden">So without marriage license being recorded, there were two probates opened and the PR for W does not want to share in lien for H health care. </span><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:blue"><span class="mceItemHidden">Anyone know of a case dealing with this or like to take a shot at how the court might decide ? </span><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:blue"><span class="mceItemHidden">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:blue"><span class="mceItemHidden">Mike</span><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:blue"><o:p><span class="mceItemHidden"> </span></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:blue"><img border="0" width="500" height="100" id="sigimg1" src="cid:image003.png@01D270DD.C148E930" wbeuser="matkins@michaelatkinslaw.com"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> </div> <hr><span class="mceItemHidden">_______________________________________________</span><br><span class="mceItemHidden">
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