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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Also in need of some guidance on this issue … Is a Medicaid lien an exception to the order of payment of debts per RCW 11.76.110? That is, wouldn’t reasonable PR fees and legal fees to administer the estate be paid first (as well as funeral expenses, last medical expenses and wages owing for labor) before DSHS? I have a case like this now and had been operating under the assumption that I would be negotiating with DSHS in hopes of leaving something for the heir from the proceeds of the house sale AFTER these other expenses.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='background:white'>Marilyn J. Kliman, Attorney at Law</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>Marilyn J. Kliman Law, PLLC</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>510 Bell Street</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'>Edmonds, WA 98020</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'><a href="tel:206.499.0993" target="_blank">206.499.0993</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'><a href="mailto:Marilyn@MarilynJKlimanLaw.com" target="_blank">Marilyn@MarilynJKlimanLaw.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='background:white'><a href="http://www.marilynjklimanlaw.com/" target="_blank">www.MarilynJKlimanLaw.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";background:#FFFF66'>NOTICE: </span><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";background:white'>Information contained in this email may be confidential and/or legally protected from disclosure. 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If you have received this in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Marcus Fry<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 17, 2017 10:59 AM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] negotiation Medicaid/DSHS lien<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>It is not so much as a negotiation but a policy. They often allow 10% to heirs as well as a reasonable PR fees and legal fees to probate and sell the house.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Marcus J. Fry</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Lyon, Weigand & Gustafson, P.S. <br>Adoption Attorney*</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>P.O. Box 1689 <br>Yakima, Washington 98907 <br>Telephone: (509) 248-7220 <br>Facsimile: (509) 575-1883 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><b><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>NOTICES:</span></u></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> *Adoption Attorney reflects election as a Fellow of the American Academy of Adoption Attorneys, an invitation based organization of 300+ attorneys nationwide, under its criteria of experience, ethics and peer recommendation. Washington's Supreme Court has not yet developed or recognized a credentialing process for specialties, and certification/fellowship is not required to practice law in this state.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Confidentiality: </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This e-mail transmission may contain information which is protected by attorney-client, work product and/or other privileges. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, or taking of any action in reliance on the contents, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please contact us immediately and return the e-mail to us by choosing Reply (or the corresponding function on your e-mail system) and then deleting the e-mail.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rob Wilson-Hoss<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 17, 2017 10:50 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] negotiation Medicaid/DSHS lien</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>I am going to expose my ignorance. I don't have much experience negotiating DSHS reimbursement claims against an Estate arising out of Medicaid payments on behalf of the decedent. Forced sale of real property will either not yield enough, or virtually exhaust assets of estate. Does DSHS negotiate these, and if so, any thoughts?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Thanks.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Rob</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Robert D. 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