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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Yeah. I am thinking of making a claim against the drafting attorney’s E&O to cover the costs of a TEDRA.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Winslow<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 17, 2016 11:24 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv' <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] mystery will: trust with no trustee or terms<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">TEDRA seems most straight forward. Sounds like a plethora of missing trust provisions would need to be supplied.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ralph Maimon<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 17, 2016 10:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] mystery will: trust with no trustee or terms<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Listmates, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">I am handling a probate where the drafting attorney said that the deceased’s widow gets 100% of the residence “in trust” to live there during her lifetime and upon her death, his interest in the residence is divided
50% among various relatives and 50% the son of the deceased. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">But the will does not name a trustee or the terms of the trust of which to abide during her lifetime (e.g., who pays the bills, repairs, etc.). This has not come to a head yet, but is heading there.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">I think we need to have a trustee appointed and some terms for the trust? Attorney malpractice aside, what approach do you think would work best for this modest estate? TEDRA? Other?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Thanks in advance for your responses.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dalynne Singleton<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Getting Paid for Probate Work<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Christopher Small<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 16, 2016 1:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Getting Paid for Probate Work<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I've got some probate cases going on (yes I said yes and figured I would figure out how to get paid later) and I'm wondering what the normal course of business is for getting paid on these.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I've read the statute and understand the court has to approve. Is there a motion to be filed while the probate is ongoing (assume straightforward case with relatively low fee)? Is the normal course to wait until the end to get paid?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Any helpful advice, anecdotal or otherwise, and a form or two if required, would be greatly appreciated!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks in advance.<o:p></o:p></p>
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