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--></style></head><body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I have a question regarding the actual recording procedure </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#2f5597">following </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#2f5597">SHB 2539</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#2f5597">.  </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">For example; Trustor dies and trust terminates, which triggers a Trustee’s deed to beneficiary.  We are now required to submit three separate documents to the treasurer along with the Excise Tax form: 1) Trustee’s Deed; 2) Death Certificate; and 3) pertinent pages of the Trust.  Has anyone had experience with the recorder’s office in this situation?  Do we need to record 3 separate documents for 3 separate fees?  Is this a statute to clarify excise tax procedures or to raise recording revenue?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#500050">Sincerely,</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#500050"><br></span><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#3333ff"><br></span></b><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Handwriting";color:#3333ff">Chris J. Moore</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#500050"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#500050">Christopher J. Moore, JD, CPA (Inactive), AEP<sup>®</sup>, EPLS*</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#500050"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#500050">Creason, Moore, Dokken & Geidl, PLLC</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#500050"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#500050">Lawyers</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#500050"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#500050">1219 Idaho Street, POB 835</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#500050"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#500050">Lewiston, Idaho 83501-0835</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#500050"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#500050">Phone: 208-743-1516; Fax: 208-746-2231</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#500050"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#500050">Website: </span><span style="color:#1f497d"><a href="http://www.cmd-law.com/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1155cc">www.cmd-law.com</span></a></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#500050"><br><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#500050">*Certified as an Estate Planning Law Specialist by the Estate Law Specialist Board, Inc., the only estate planning certification entity approved by both the American Bar Association and the Idaho State Bar Association.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#500050"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#500050">_______________________________________________</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#500050"><br></span><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#17365d">-- Note -- </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#17365d">The information contained in this e-mail transmission is confidential and may also be a legally privileged communication. This information is intended for the exclusive and private use of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, disclosure, dissemination, distribution (other than to the addressee(s)), copying or taking any action because of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately. Thank you.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#17365d"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#17365d">~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Douglas Bratt<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 20, 2016 12:53 PM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Personal Rep deed distributing needs cert copy of LT</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I was referring to subsection (2) of RCW 82.45.197, which states:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="4" cellpadding="0" width="100%" style="width:100.0%"><tr><td width="1%" nowrap valign="top" style="width:1.0%;padding:2.4pt 2.4pt 2.4pt 2.4pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><a name="82.45.197(2)"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif">“(2)</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif"></span></p></td><td valign="top" style="padding:2.4pt 2.4pt 2.4pt 2.4pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif">The documentation provided to the county treasurer under this section must also be recorded with the county auditor.”</span></p></td></tr></table><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">As to transfer via a trust, subsection (1)(b) states: </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif">“If the property is being transferred under the terms of a trust instrument, a certified copy of the death certificate and a copy of that portion of the trust instrument showing the authority of the grantor;”</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif">So, it appears to me that the entirety of the Trust Instrument need not be recorded.  Banks, when establishing accounts for trusts, normally ask for the title page, the page on which the Trustee is appointed, and the signature page, not the entirety of the Trust.  I would think that the same pages of a trust would suffice as the additional documentation to be recorded when a Trustee’s Deed is being recorded.    </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode",sans-serif">But, it seems clear that anything referenced in RCW 82.45.197 (1) needs to be recorded, per subsection (2) of that statute.  </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Doug Bratt</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span><a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> [</span><a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">] <b>On Behalf Of </b>James B. Dolan<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 20, 2016 11:32 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Personal Rep deed distributing needs cert copy of LT [text]</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I am not reading 82.45.197 quite that way.  I see that the <u>CPA</u> must be recorded, which has always been true.  I see <u>certified</u> Letters and certified Certificate of Death, or certified court order are now required – not necessarily recorded???</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Am I missing something, perhaps a reference to another statute?  If so, I am surprised that a trust would need to be recorded, as one reason some folks have for establishing a trust is to avoid publication or filing.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Jim Dolan</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">===================</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Jones Butler Dolan, PS</span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.jbdolan.com"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">www.jbdolan.com</span></a><u><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"></span></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.jonesbutlerdolan.com"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">www.jonesbutlerdolan.com</span></a><u><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"></span></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><span style="text-decoration:none"> </span></span></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Mount Vernon</span></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">P.O. Box 2784</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">415 Pine Street </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Mount Vernon, WA 98273</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Telephone: 360-336-2939</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Facsimile: 360-336-2949</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Stanwood</span></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><span style="text-decoration:none"> </span></span></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">P.O. Box 458</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">10027 - 269th Place NW (SR 532)</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Stanwood, WA 98292</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Telephone: 360-629-3833</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Facsimile: 360-629-6253</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><span style="text-decoration:none"> </span></span></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span><a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> [</span><a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Douglas Bratt<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 20, 2016 11:12 AM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Personal Rep deed distributing needs cert copy of LT</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">A review of the statute cited by Mike, RCW 82.45.197, indicates that the documents required to be presented to the Treasurer also <u>must be recorded</u> with the Auditor, presumably to be included in a packet with whatever is being recorded.  In this case, both the Personal Representative’s Deed and the certified copy of the Letters Testamentary or Letters of Administration will have to be recorded.  This will require a bit more detail on the Auditor’s Cover Sheet. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">This will also encourage a bit of pre-planning if one is to avoid a trip to the Clerk’s Office in order to obtain another Certified Copy of the Letters Testamentary or Letters of Administration when it is time to record a PR Deed.  I generally simply obtain two certified copies of the Letters and give them both to the client, after scanning the Letters for my file copy. I tell the client to allow folks to copy the Letters, if they wish, but not to give the Letters up, unless absolutely required.  The second certified copy of the Letters to the client is a bit of insurance for the client in case he/she has had to give up one certified copy of the Letters.  However, if one anticipates that there will be a PR Deed to an heir, later in the case, better practice would be to obtain the additional certified copy for that purpose, when the Letters are first issued.  Saves time, hassle, and fees charged to client, it seems to me, for just one additional payment of $5.00.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Doug Bratt</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:#1f497d">Douglas J. Bratt</span><span style="color:#1f497d"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:#1f497d">Lawyer</span><span style="color:#1f497d"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><img border="0" width="165" height="167" id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D1E67F.555F5080" alt="Envelope scaled Terry"></span><span style="color:#1f497d"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Office: (360) 213-2040 </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> Fax: (360) 213-2030</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:  This email message may contain confidential or privileged information.  If you have received this message by mistake, please do not review, disclose, copy, or distribute the email. Instead, please notify us immediately by replying to this message or telephoning us.  Thank you.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">NOTE:</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1f497d">  </span><span style="color:#1f497d">I do not use encrypted email.  Messages sent to or from my office via email are not secure and may not be protected by attorney-client privilege.  This email address is not monitored at all times.  If your matter is urgent, please phone my office during regular business hours.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">TAX ADVICE NOTICE: IRS Circular 230 requires us to advise you that, if this communication or any attachment contains any tax advice, the advice is not intended to be used, and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g:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> [</span><a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Marcia Mellinger<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 19, 2016 5:52 PM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <</span><a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Personal Rep deed distributing needs cert copy of LT</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">We used to send a copy of the certified Letters Testamentary when recording the deeds distributing properties to heirs.  With the law passed last month, we now need to send an original certified copy of the LTs.  <br><br>Had this bounce back and don't want it to happen to you. Best, Marcia</span></p><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><hr size="3" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From: </span><a href="mailto:Kbrink@vjglaw.com"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Kbrink@vjglaw.com</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><br>To: </span><a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><br>Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 22:25:27 +0000<br>Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Getting deceased husband off the deed</span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I was hoping you would weigh in on this, John McCrady from Puget Sound Title.</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Thank you – and to everyone for all the good ideas!</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#215868">Best regards,</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Handwriting";color:#31849b">Kerry E. Brink</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Kerry E. Brink </span></b><b><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">• </span></b><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Attorney</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:3.0pt;font-family:"Californian FB";color:#1f497d"> </span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Californian FB";font-variant:small-caps;color:#31849b">Estate Planning, Probate, Elder Law</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#c00000">____________________________________<span style="font-variant:small-caps"><br></span></span></b><b><span style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#215868">Vandeberg Johnson & Gandara, LLP</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calib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span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#993366">This is true, but don’t forget the new rules requiring the recording of both a lack of probate affidavit and of a death certificate.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#993366">The recorded LOP affidavit can be found at the Department of Revenue web site, but for convenience I have attached a copy </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#993366"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:HelveticaNeueETW01-55Rg;color:#993366">John McCrady</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:HelveticaNeueETW01-55Rg;color:#993366">Counsel</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#993366">Puget Sound Title Company</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#993366">5350 Orchard Street West</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#993366">University Place WA 98466</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#993366">253-476-5721</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#993366"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> [</span><a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jay Goldstein<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 19, 2016 2:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv' <</span><a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Getting deceased husband off the deed</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Ask your local title company about Lack of Probate Affidavit.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Title company may be willing to insure title with this.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">J</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Freehand521 BT";color:#17365d">Jay A. Goldstein</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><img border="0" width="394" height="108" id="ecxPicture_x0020_1" src="cid:image002.png@01D1E67F.555F5080" alt="cid:AEF18ED8-6AEE-403C-99E7-30A379E62D84@local"></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#404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com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><br><b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Getting deceased husband off the deed</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Have a question to what is likely a common problem, I just haven't dealt with it yet.</span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Husband and wife own property. Husband dies with no will and no other assets.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Years later wife is trying to transfer property to son and county won't allow it because husband is still on the deed.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I'm getting a copy of the deed to make sure the property wasn't held in an unusual way, but assuming the property was held jointly as it normally is in the state, any ideas on how to get husband off the title?</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thank you for your help.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Cheers,</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><br clear="all"></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Christopher Small</span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://cmslawfirm.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">CMS Law Firm LLC</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">150 Lake St., Suite 227</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Kirkland, WA 98033</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">206.659.1512</span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><br>_______________________________________________ WSBAPT mailing list </span><a href="mailto:WSBAPT@lists.wsbarppt.com"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">WSBAPT@lists.wsbarppt.com</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbapt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbapt</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>