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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you for letting me know that it is possible to open an account per 11.076.095(1) without a custodian being named.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Update: I spoke with the local Umpqua Bank branch this morning and they have no problem opening the account without a court order naming a custodian.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Donna Calf Robe<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Blocked financial account for minor beneficiary<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I serve as an SGAL and many of the settlements are small amounts that I recommend be placed in a blocked account until the minor turns 18. The order says that the minor can obtain the funds when they show proof
to the bank that they are 18, without the need of a court order. The PI attorney or attorney for the insurance company just deposits the money into the blocked account and no custodian is appointed. They then file a receipt with the info showing deposit into
the blocked account. US bank has done these in the past without problem. I wonder if it’s just that particular branch that doesn’t understand the procedure.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jon Fritzler<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Blocked financial account for minor beneficiary<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Doug,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you for the reply. I agree with you that a distribution to a custodian under the UTMA, which would allow the funds to be held up to the minor’s 25<sup>th</sup> birthday, would be better than the minor getting all the funds at age
18 if a “boatload” of money were involved but the amount that the minor will inherit in this case is relatively small. I also agree there is nothing in the statute preventing the PR from serving as a custodian under the UTMA. However, I also don’t think there
is anything obligating a PR to do so if they would prefer not to do so.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I respectfully disagree with your analysis of the statute, however. 11.076.095(1) directs that the funds be deposited in a blocked financial account subject to withdrawal only upon the order of the court in the original probate proceeding
or the minor attaining the age of 18. RCW 11.076.095(2) directs that the funds be paid or delivered to a guardian and (3) directs that they be transferred to a custodian subject to the UTMA. Both guardians and UTMA custodians have the authority to use the
funds for the benefit of the minor without first obtaining a court order so I don’t understand how the PR could do (1) in combination with (2) or (3). I think they are three distinct options.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Douglas Bratt<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 13, 2016 4:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Jon:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I don’t think the bank is in the wrong in this instance (an unusual conclusion for me).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">By my reading of the statute, you either have to appoint a Guardian (yuck) or pay it over to a custodian on behalf of the minor. The statue appears to require the PR to do (1) in combination with (2) or for
the PR to do (1) in combination with (3).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">It appears that the statute has nothing in it that would prevent the PR, him/herself to serve as the custodian.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">However, better yet, how about a distribution under the Uniform Transfers to Minors Act, which would allow funds to be held onto by a custodian, on behalf of the Minor, beyond his/her 18<sup>th</sup> birthday,
up to, and including, the Minor’s 25<sup>th</sup> Birthday (which might be a desirable goal, depending upon how much money is involved. If it is a “boatload” of money, better not to have an 18 year old getting it in time to have a multi-day or multi-week
celebration to beat all celebrations of his/her birthday, and soon the money is gone. If it is only a couple thousand dollars, it is probably not worth the extra hassle.) Again, I have had the PR serve as the custodian under that statute.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Good luck.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jon Fritzler<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 13, 2016 2:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Blocked financial account for minor beneficiary<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Listmates,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I represent a PR with non-intervention powers in an estate where one of the beneficiaries is a minor. We are trying to open a blocked financial account
for the minor’s share of the estate per RCW 11.76.095(1) (see below). Although I do not read the statute as requiring a PR with non-intervention powers to obtain a court order to open such an account, US Bank would not open the account without one. OK, so
I got a court order directing the PR to distribute the minor’s share to a blocked account subject to withdrawal only upon the order of the court in the probate proceeding, or upon the beneficiary attaining the age of 18 and furnishing proof thereof satisfactory
to the depositary. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">However, US Bank still refuses to open the account because the order does not specify who is to be the custodian of the account! The reason my client
wanted to open a blocked financial account in the first place was because there aren’t any good candidates to serve as custodian of the funds for the minor. Has anyone had success opening a blocked financial account for a minor beneficiary pursuant to 11.76.095(1)
without naming a custodian and, if so, at which financial institution?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><u><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">RCW 11.76.095<o:p></o:p></span></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">When a decree of distribution is made by the court in administration upon a decedent's estate or<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">when distribution is made by a personal representative under a nonintervention will and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">distribution is ordered under such decree or authorized under such nonintervention will to a person<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">under the age of eighteen years, it shall be required that:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(1) The money be deposited in a bank or trust company or be invested in an account in an<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">insured financial institution for the benefit of the minor subject to withdrawal only upon the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">order of the court in the original probate proceeding, or upon said minor's attaining the age<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">of eighteen years and furnishing proof thereof satisfactory to the depositary;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(2) A general guardian shall be appointed and qualify and the money or property be paid or<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">delivered to such guardian prior to the discharge of the personal representative in the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">original probate proceeding; or<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">(3) A custodian be selected and the money or property be transferred to the custodian subject<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">to chapter 11.114 RCW.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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