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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I am clear, as I think most of our listmates are, that Pre-Nuptial Agreements require independent counsel, one for each party because the interests of the two parties to the agreement are clearly adverse.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Look at what you are dealing with: A couple with a significant gulf between themselves as to how much separate property each party has, at least as to their relative ownership of the house. There is apparent interest in converting their separate property interests into community property. That just appears to be the reverse of the Pre-Nup in which people are trying to define what is separate and what shall be considered to be community and the effects thereof. In your case, how can one attorney possibly take on the responsibility of “advising <u>them</u> of the pros and cons of converting the home to community property now that they are married?” <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Their interests are clearly adverse to eachother. One party (the owner of the lesser portion of the house) will make out much better than the person giving up that person’s majority ownership of the house.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You cannot possibly advise both parties, and stay out of a conflict situation. I would suggest that you not try to take this task on in its present posture.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Send one away, after getting that person to waive any conflict you might have in continuing to represent the other, if that is what you want to do. BUT, don’t do it without the waiver. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>OR, send them both away to their own separate counsel.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Good luck, but be very careful.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Doug Bratt<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:#1F497D'>Douglas J. 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Please contact us if you have any questions about Circular 230 or would like to discuss our preparation of an opinion that conforms to these IRS rules.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sharon Rutberg<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 07, 2016 10:17 AM<br><b>To:</b> wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com<br><b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] same-sex spouses and property status agreements<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Good morning, listmates –<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Clients are a same-sex couple who recently married and want to update their estate planning. Some years ago, when domestic partners, they signed a detailed property agreement setting out their respective separate interests in real property (their home). One partner put more into the home and accordingly had a much larger share. I want to advise them of the pros and cons of converting the home to community property now that they are married. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>If you have dealt with this issue before and would be willing to help me think it through, I would appreciate hearing from you.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Sharon <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Law Office of Sharon C. 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