<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><span></span></div><div><span>Does anyone know what the remedies are or where to start if your client's spouse fraudulently transferred community property by deed? </span><br><span></span><br><span>The deed states "spouse's name", "an unmarried individual" although they are still married.</span><br><span></span><br><span>The sale price was also less than the county's assessed value...but we have no clue who the grantee is. Some research suggest they might be foreign citizens and there is no way to contact them. After doing a record search on the Address listed as grantee's address, the grantee does not own that property. </span><br><span></span><br><span>Any tips would be really appreciated.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Thank you.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Theresa Nguyen, J.D., LL.M.<br>Law Office of Theresa Nguyen, PLLC<br><a href="x-apple-data-detectors://11/0" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="address" x-apple-data-detectors-result="11/0">707 S Grady Way, Suite 600 | Renton, WA 98057</a><br>Ph. <a href="tel:425.998.7295" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="telephone" x-apple-data-detectors-result="11/1">425.998.7295</a> | Fax <a href="tel:425.420.2695" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="telephone" x-apple-data-detectors-result="11/2">425.420.2695</a><br>Email: <a href="mailto:theresa@tnguyenlaw.com" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="11/3">theresa@tnguyenlaw.com</a> | Mobile: <a href="tel:206.499.9515" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="telephone" x-apple-data-detectors-result="11/4">206.499.9515</a> <br>Website: <a href="http://www.tnguyenlaw.com/" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="11/5">www.tnguyenlaw.com</a> <br></span><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Apr 23, 2016, at 12:00 PM, <a href="mailto:wsbapt-request@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-request@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Send WSBAPT mailing list submissions to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>   <a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>   <a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbapt">http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbapt</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>   <a href="mailto:wsbapt-request@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-request@lists.wsbarppt.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>You can reach the person managing the list at</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>   <a href="mailto:wsbapt-owner@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-owner@lists.wsbarppt.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>than "Re: Contents of WSBAPT digest..."</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Today's Topics:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>  1. Releasing PR and appointing new one - proper forms and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>     language (Steve Waltar)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>  2. Re: Releasing PR and appointing new one - proper forms    and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>     language (Eric Nelsen)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>  3. Re: Releasing PR and appointing new one - proper    forms    and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>     language (<a href="mailto:pugetsoundlaw@gmail.com">pugetsoundlaw@gmail.com</a>)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>  4. Re: Releasing PR and appointing new one - proper    forms    and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>     language (Douglas Bratt)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>----------------------------------------------------------------------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Message: 1</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 20:38:25 +0000</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: Steve Waltar <<a href="mailto:steve@waltar.com">steve@waltar.com</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: [WSBAPT] Releasing PR and appointing new one - proper forms</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>   and    language</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Message-ID:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>   <<a href="mailto:BN3PR0201MB09302EFD618F57BF1ED86998D96F0@BN3PR0201MB0930.namprd02.prod.outlook.com">BN3PR0201MB09302EFD618F57BF1ED86998D96F0@BN3PR0201MB0930.namprd02.prod.outlook.com</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I have a case in which the existing PR listed in a Last Will and Testament (probate already begun) wants to resign.  Also, the only other listed alternate PR ants to decline.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I have two questions:  /requests for help.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>First, Do I need a new petition and order and oath to get a new Administrative PR appointed?  If so, would anyone share pleadings with me?  I'm fine with the Declination by the alternate PR.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Second, what is the proper language to have when releasing the existing PR.  In other words, should there be language to "release" the existing PR from fiduciary duties, give the courts blessing or hold harmless since fiduciary duties are terminated, and of course to cancel the existing Letters Testamentary?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Stephen M. Waltar, PS</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Estate Planning Law</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>1750 - 112th Avenue NE, Suite C245</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Bellevue, WA  98004</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>(425) 455-6788</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.waltar.com">www.waltar.com</a><<a href="http://www.waltar.com/">http://www.waltar.com/</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>[cid:image002.jpg@01CA47FC.9ED8CEE0]<<a href="http://www.waltar.com/">http://www.waltar.com/</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>If we should be helping someone you care about,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>please don't keep us a secret!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>[facebook]<<a href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/Stephen-M-Waltar-PS/663832273655743">https://www.facebook.com/pages/Stephen-M-Waltar-PS/663832273655743</a>>  [twitter] <<a href="https://twitter.com/WaltarLaw">https://twitter.com/WaltarLaw</a>>   [linkedin] <<a href="http://www.linkedin.com/company/3173783?trk=tyah">http://www.linkedin.com/company/3173783?trk=tyah</a>>   [g-plus-icon-32x32] <<a href="https://plus.google.com/u/0/114715232767415279995">https://plus.google.com/u/0/114715232767415279995</a>>   [youtube] <<a href="http://www.youtube.com/StephenMWaltarPS">http://www.youtube.com/StephenMWaltarPS</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Circular 230 Warning:  This communication is not intended to constitute tax advice and may not be used by any person or entity for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed by the Internal Revenue Service.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Confidentiality Notice: The information contained herein and any attachments are a private communication sent by the Law Firm of Stephen M. Waltar, PS and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information meant solely for the intended recipient.  If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, forwarding or any form of copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message, then delete the e-mail and any attachments from your system.<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n><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 21:23:34 +0000</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: Eric Nelsen <<a href="mailto:Eric@sayrelawoffices.com">Eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Releasing PR and appointing new one - proper</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>   forms    and    language</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Message-ID:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>   <<a href="mailto:8CF6ADB264BB704BB884B2ED9C1931D40187F9292E@SBS2011.SayreLawOffices.local">8CF6ADB264BB704BB884B2ED9C1931D40187F9292E@SBS2011.SayreLawOffices.local</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>See RCW 11.28.290<<a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.28&full=true#11.28.290">http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.28&full=true#11.28.290</a>> to start--a PR who resigns must account to the successor. It can be done privately and informally, outside the court, but an initial duty of the successor PR is to receive the accounting from the resigning PR and ensure that the resigning PR has turned over all assets, etc. Often this merely amounts to turning over some papers and maybe helping change over the estate bank account.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Once the resigning PR has fully accounted to her/his successor, the court should "discharge" her/him. The initial resignation should be "accepted" by the court and the new PR appointed, but the old PR isn't "discharged" until the Court is certain that all duties up to that point have been met.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>You do need a new petition, order, and oath for the new PR, just like at the beginning, with appropriate changes to reflect acceptance of resignation of old PR, and some instructions that old PR shall account to the new PR and shall be discharged, say, "upon filing by the new PR of a Receipt acknowledging receipt of a satisfactory accounting and possession and control of all estate property formerly managed by the old PR." Or some such like that. If something goes wrong, the new PR can always petition the court for other relief.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>New PR can get nonintervention powers also if available--see RCW 11.28.280<<a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.28&full=true#11.28.280">http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.28&full=true#11.28.280</a>>.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sincerely,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Eric</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Eric C. Nelsen</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>SAYRE LAW OFFICES, PLLC</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>1320 University St</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Seattle WA  98101-2837</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>phone 206-625-0092</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>fax 206-625-9040</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] On Behalf Of Steve Waltar</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 1:38 PM</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: [WSBAPT] Releasing PR and appointing new one - proper forms and language</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I have a case in which the existing PR listed in a Last Will and Testament (probate already begun) wants to resign.  Also, the only other listed alternate PR ants to decline.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I have two questions:  /requests for help.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>First, Do I need a new petition and order and oath to get a new Administrative PR appointed?  If so, would anyone share pleadings with me?  I'm fine with the Declination by the alternate PR.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Second, what is the proper language to have when releasing the existing PR.  In other words, should there be language to "release" the existing PR from fiduciary duties, give the courts blessing or hold harmless since fiduciary duties are terminated, and of course to cancel the existing Letters Testamentary?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Stephen M. Waltar, PS</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Estate Planning Law</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>1750 - 112th Avenue NE, Suite C245</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Bellevue, WA  98004</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>(425) 455-6788</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.waltar.com">www.waltar.com</a><<a href="http://www.waltar.com/">http://www.waltar.com/</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>[cid:image002.jpg@01CA47FC.9ED8CEE0]<<a href="http://www.waltar.com/">http://www.waltar.com/</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>If we should be helping someone you care about,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>please don't keep us a secret!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>[facebook]<<a href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/Stephen-M-Waltar-PS/663832273655743">https://www.facebook.com/pages/Stephen-M-Waltar-PS/663832273655743</a>>  [twitter] <<a href="https://twitter.com/WaltarLaw">https://twitter.com/WaltarLaw</a>>   [linkedin] <<a href="http://www.linkedin.com/company/3173783?trk=tyah">http://www.linkedin.com/company/3173783?trk=tyah</a>>   [g-plus-icon-32x32] <<a href="https://plus.google.com/u/0/114715232767415279995">https://plus.google.com/u/0/114715232767415279995</a>>   [youtube] <<a href="http://www.youtube.com/StephenMWaltarPS">http://www.youtube.com/StephenMWaltarPS</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Circular 230 Warning:  This communication is not intended to constitute tax advice and may not be used by any person or entity for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed by the Internal Revenue Service.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Confidentiality Notice: The information contained herein and any attachments are a private communication sent by the Law Firm of Stephen M. Waltar, PS and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information meant solely for the intended recipient.  If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, forwarding or any form of copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message, then delete the e-mail and any attachments from your system.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>-------------- next part --------------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>URL: <<a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbapt/attachments/20160422/0ab24dca/attachment-0001.html">http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbapt/attachments/20160422/0ab24dca/attachment-0001.html</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>-------------- next part --------------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>A non-text attachment was scrubbed...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Name: image001.jpg</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Type: image/jpeg</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Size: 3888 bytes</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Desc: image001.jpg</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>URL: <<a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbapt/attachments/20160422/0ab24dca/image001-0001.jpg">http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbapt/attachments/20160422/0ab24dca/image001-0001.jpg</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>-------------- next part --------------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>A non-text attachment was scrubbed...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Name: image002.png</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Type: image/png</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Size: 1454 bytes</span><br></blockquote><blockquote typ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ote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The new letters issued will be "Letters of Administration with Will Annexed"</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Tara M. Roberts</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Puget Sound Law pllc</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:roberts@pugetsoundlaw.com">roberts@pugetsoundlaw.com</a> <<a href="mailto:roberts@pugetsoundlaw.com">mailto:roberts@pugetsoundlaw.com</a>> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>[<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] On Behalf Of Eric Nelsen</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 2:24 PM</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Releasing PR and appointing new one - proper forms and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>language</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>See RCW 11.28.290</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.28&full=true#11.28.290">http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.28&full=true#11.28.290</a>>  to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>start--a PR who resigns must account to the successor. It can be done</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>privately and informally, outside the court, but an initial duty of the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>successor PR is to receive the accounting from the resigning PR and ensure</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>that the resigning PR has turned over all assets, etc. Often this merely</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>amounts to turning over some papers and maybe helping change over the estate</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>bank account.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Once the resigning PR has fully accounted to her/his successor, the court</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>should "discharge" her/him. The initial resignation should be "accepted" by</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the court and the new PR appointed, but the old PR isn't "discharged" until</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the Court is certain that all duties up to that point have been met.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>You do need a new petition, order, and oath for the new PR, just like at the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>beginning, with appropriate changes to reflect acceptance of resignation of</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>old PR, and some instructions that old PR shall account to the new PR and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>shall be discharged, say, "upon filing by the new PR of a Receipt</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>acknowledging receipt of a satisfactory accounting and possession and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>control of all estate property formerly managed by the old PR." Or some such</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>like that. If something goes wrong, the new PR can always petition the court</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>for other relief.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>New PR can get nonintervention powers also if available--see RCW 11.28.280</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.28&full=true#11.28.280">http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.28&full=true#11.28.280</a>> .</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sincerely,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Eric</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Eric C. Nelsen</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>SAYRE LAW OFFICES, PLLC</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>1320 University St</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Seattle WA  98101-2837</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>phone 206-625-0092</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>fax 206-625-9040</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>[<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] On Behalf Of Steve Waltar</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 1:38 PM</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: [WSBAPT] Releasing PR and appointing new one - proper forms and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>language</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I have a case in which the existing PR listed in a Last Will and Testament</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>(probate already begun) wants to resign.  Also, the only other listed</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>alternate PR ants to decline.  </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I have two questions:  /requests for help.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>First, Do I need a new petition and order and oath to get a new</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Administrative PR appointed?  If so, would anyone share pleadings with me?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I'm fine with the Declination by the alternate PR.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Second, what is the proper language to have when releasing the existing PR.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>In other words, should there be language to "release" the existing PR from</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>fiduciary duties, give the courts blessing or hold harmless since fiduciary</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>duties are terminated, and of course to cancel the existing Letters</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Testamentary?  </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Stephen M. Waltar, PS</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Estate Planning Law</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>1750 - 112th Avenue NE, Suite C245</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Bellevue, WA  98004</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>(425) 455-6788</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://www.waltar.com/">http://www.waltar.com/</a>> <a href="http://www.waltar.com">www.waltar.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://www.waltar.com/">http://www.waltar.com/</a>> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>If we should be helping someone you care about, </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>please don't keep us a secret!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/Stephen-M-Waltar-PS/663832273655743">https://www.facebook.com/pages/Stephen-M-Waltar-PS/663832273655743</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="https://twitter.com/WaltarLaw">https://twitter.com/WaltarLaw</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://www.linkedin.com/company/3173783?trk=tyah">http://www.linkedin.com/company/3173783?trk=tyah</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="https://plus.google.com/u/0/114715232767415279995">https://plus.google.com/u/0/114715232767415279995</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://www.youtube.com/StephenMWaltarPS">http://www.youtube.com/StephenMWaltarPS</a>> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Circular 230 Warning:  This communication is not intended to constitute tax</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>advice and may not be used by any person or entity for the purpose of</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>avoiding penalties that may be imposed by the Internal Revenue Service.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Confidentiality Notice: The information contained herein and any attachments</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>are a private communication sent by the Law Firm of Stephen M. Waltar, PS</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information meant</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>solely for the intended recipient.  If you are not the intended recipient,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>forwarding or any form of copying of this communication is strictly</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately by replying to this</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>message, then delete the e-mail and any attachments from your system.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>-------------- next part --------------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>URL: <<a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbapt/attachments/20160422/204e7304/attachment-0001.html">http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbapt/attachments/20160422/204e7304/attachment-0001.html</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>-------------- next part --------------</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>A non-text attachment was scrubbed...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cit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age-ID:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>   <<a href="mailto:CE7DE311763C284CBA15D1B0B4122FAA01532B747C@Server01.mbavancouverlaw.com">CE7DE311763C284CBA15D1B0B4122FAA01532B747C@Server01.mbavancouverlaw.com</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hello:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Eric Nelson's reply is, as it most often is, thorough and thoughtful.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>One pitfall in the present situation is that the two persons mentioned in the Will to serve were probably authorized to serve "without bond," per the provisions of the Will.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The person who is to serve as the Substitute PR has not been similarly trusted by the Testator/Testatrix, by name, in the Will.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>So, it very well might be that the new PR will be required to obtain and file a Personal Representative's Bond.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>My three (3) cents (higher rates on Fridays).</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Regards,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Doug Bratt</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Douglas J. Bratt</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Lawyer</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>[Envelope scaled Foster]</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Office: (360) 213-2040</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Fax: (360) 213-2030</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:  This email message may contain confidential or privileged information.  If you have received this message by mistake, please do not review, disclose, copy, or distribute the email. Instead, please notify us immediately by replying to this message or telephoning us.  Thank you.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>NOTE:  I do not use encrypted email.  Messages sent to or Sent from my iPhone<br></span></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>TAX ADVICE NOTICE: IRS Circular 230 requires us to advise you that, if this communication or any attachment contains any tax advice, the advice is not intended to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding federal tax penalties. A taxpayer may rely on professional advice to avoid federal tax penalties only if the advice is reflected in a comprehensive tax opinion that conforms to stringent requirements. Please contact us if you have any questions about Circular 230 or would like to discuss our preparation of an opinion that conforms to these IRS rules.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] On Behalf Of Eric Nelsen</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 2:24 PM</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Releasing PR and appointing new one - proper forms and language</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>See RCW 11.28.290<<a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.28&full=true#11.28.290">http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.28&full=true#11.28.290</a>> to start--a PR who resigns must account to the successor. It can be done privately and informally, outside the court, but an initial duty of the successor PR is to receive the accounting from the resigning PR and ensure that the resigning PR has turned over all assets, etc. Often this merely amounts to turning over some papers and maybe helping change over the estate bank account.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Once the resigning PR has fully accounted to her/his successor, the court should "discharge" her/him. The initial resignation should be "accepted" by the court and the new PR appointed, but the old PR isn't "discharged" until the Court is certain that all duties up to that point have been met.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>You do need a new petition, order, and oath for the new PR, just like at the beginning, with appropriate changes to reflect acceptance of resignation of old PR, and some instructions that old PR shall account to the new PR and shall be discharged, say, "upon filing by the new PR of a Receipt acknowledging receipt of a satisfactory accounting and possession and control of all estate property formerly managed by the old PR." Or some such like that. If something goes wrong, the new PR can always petition the court for other relief.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>New PR can get nonintervention powers also if available--see RCW 11.28.280<<a href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.28&full=true#11.28.280">http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.28&full=true#11.28.280</a>>.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sincerely,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Eric</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Eric C. Nelsen</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>SAYRE LAW OFFICES, PLLC</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>1320 University St</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Seattle WA  98101-2837</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>phone 206-625-0092</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>fax 206-625-9040</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>> [<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] On Behalf Of Steve Waltar</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 1:38 PM</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: [WSBAPT] Releasing PR and appointing new one - proper forms and language</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I have a case in which the existing PR listed in a Last Will and Testament (probate already begun) wants to resign.  Also, the only other listed alternate PR ants to decline.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I have two questions:  /requests for help.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>First, Do I need a new petition and order and oath to get a new Administrative PR appointed?  If so, would anyone share pleadings with me?  I'm fine with the Declination by the alternate PR.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Second, what is the proper language to have when releasing the existing PR.  In other words, should there be language to "release" the existing PR from fiduciary duties, give the courts blessing or hold harmless since fiduciary duties are terminated, and of course to cancel the existing Letters Testamentary?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Stephen M. Waltar, PS</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Estate Planning Law</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>1750 - 112th Avenue NE, Suite C245</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Bellevue, WA  98004</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>(425) 455-6788</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.waltar.com">www.waltar.com</a><<a href="http://www.waltar.com/">http://www.waltar.com/</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=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