<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>I agree that the first analysis should be the CIR, which determines ownership interests. Unless she's on the hook for the debts his creditors shouldn't be able to go after her interest or personally just because there is a community-like ownership. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">What's his will be available to his creditors. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">John Sullivan<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Apr 12, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Eric Nelsen <<a href="mailto:Eric@sayrelawoffices.com">Eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I agree with Mark--good tactic to explore is to examine carefully what actually is in the Estate inventory. What is status of ownership of the house? If was
bought during the CIR and GF contributed to purchase, can GF assert a "community-like" ownership interest, that she automatically retains and is not subject to the probate or decedent's creditors?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">GF could even go so far as to do a divorce-like proceeding in TEDRA to divide assets acquired during the CIR on a "fair and equitable" basis between herself
and Decedent's Estate. I personally don't like this as I think it's bad law, but I do think it's available.
<u>Estate of Langeland</u>, 177 Wn. App. 315, 312 P.3d 657 (Div. 1 2013) <u>rev. denied</u> 180 Wn.2d 1009 (2014).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Eric<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Eric C. Nelsen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Higgins<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 12, 2016 11:31 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Probate & the CIR<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Does GF's claim to the assets under a meretricious relationship increase the amount for her over merely being a named beneficiary? This could be both a quantitative matter as well as providing a right to
be in her house independent of the estate and its creditors.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Paul Neumiller <<a href="mailto:pneumiller@hotmail.com" target="_blank">pneumiller@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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personal assets. Many creditors wanting $$$. Only remaining major asset is the house. Probate is opened and GF is the court appointed PR. GF wants to live in house as long as possible but the creditors stampede is approaching. Does GF really have to sell
the house to pay off the creditors and then retain the balance of the proceeds?<o:p></o:p></p>
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