<html><body><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:#0000ff; font-size:14pt;"><div>Thanks Eric</div><div><br></div><div><img id="sigimg1" title="signature image" src="cid:sigimg1@947fcb2d855fbb3ad63c896fc15e035c" border="0" alt=""></div><div><br><br></div>
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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] FAMILY ALLOWANCE<br>
From: Eric Nelsen <<a href="mailto:Eric@sayrelawoffices.com">Eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a>><br>
Date: Mon, February 15, 2016 11:20 am<br>
To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
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</style> <div class="WordSection1"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I don't have case law on the exact point re family support but the general rule is, CIR partner has no statutory rights as "surviving spouse or domestic partner." The creation of CIR is Washington common law that applies general common law rules by analogy to divide property accumulated during a CIR, either at time of breakup or death of a CIR partner. It confers no statutory rights. The only direct holding I can think of is that CIR status does not make a "surviving spouse" under inheritance law.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Estate of Langeland</span></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">, 177 Wn.App. 315 (2013), quotes and follows the Supreme Court authority stating that the surviving partner in a committed intimate relationship does not have the status of surviving spouse. <u>Id</u>. at 329-330, <u>citing</u> <u>Peffley-Warner v. Bowen</u>, 113 Wn.2d 243, 253, 778 P.2d 1022 (1989).<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Eric<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Eric C. Nelsen<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">SAYRE LAW OFFICES, PLLC<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">1320 University St<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Seattle WA 98101-2837<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">phone 206-625-0092<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">fax 206-625-9040<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jayne Gilbert<br> <b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 12, 2016 1:47 PM<br> <b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] FAMILY ALLOWANCE<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">My 2 cents-I do not think the survivor of a CIR gets a family allowance and I think there's a case out there saying just that<o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Michael Atkins <<a href="mailto:michael@westseattleattorney.com" target="_blank">michael@westseattleattorney.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div> <div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:blue">Hi Paul - no response<o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:blue"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:blue"><img border="0" width="500" height="100" id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image002.png@01D167E2.AE6F88F0" wbeuser="matkins@michaelatkinslaw.com"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-bottom:14.0pt"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:blue"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> </div> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:6.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <div> <div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">-------- Original Message --------<br> Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] FAMILY ALLOWANCE<br> From: Paul Neumiller <<a href="mailto:pneumiller@hotmail.com" target="_blank">pneumiller@hotmail.com</a>><br> Date: Fri, February 12, 2016 10:53 am<br> To: "'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv'" <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><o:p></o:p></span></div> <div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Mike, I have the same issue where my PR is the survivor of a CIR. Decedent’s Will gives everything to her but the Decedent has many medical bills that may wipe out all assets of the estate and force her to move out of their home. </span> <span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Has anyone respond to your posting about the family allowance?</span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><a target="_blank" name="1997945434_Paul_Neumiller"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><img border="0" width="375" height="225" id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image003.jpg@01D167E2.AE6F88F0" wbeuser="matkins@michaelatkinslaw.com"></span></a><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Atkins<br> <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:47 PM<br> <b>To:</b> PROBATE -REAL PROP SECTION <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br> <b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] FAMILY ALLOWANCE</span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> </div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue">Is the Family Allowance available to a survivor of a CIR - not registered as domestic partners? 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