<html><body><div style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div aria-label="Compose body">Alexis,<br></div><div aria-label="Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label="Compose body">The decedent may have unwittingly added the surviving spouse as a debtor when he got a card for her under the same account. Especially if he did so over the telephone with the credit card company. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Very truly yours,<br>Maureen A. Wickert, Attorney at Law<br>         <br>       WICKERT LAW OFFICE<br></div><div><div><br></div>14900 Interurban Avenue South, Ste 255<br>        Tukwila, WA 98168<br>       Phone: 206-859-5502<br>         Fax: 206-260-9005<br>     www.wickertlawoffice.com<br>       wickertlaw@comcast.net<br><div><br></div>This electronic message contains information which may be confidential and/or legally privileged. The information is intended for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this transmission is prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify me by telephone or by email immediately.<br><span name="x"></span><br></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style="color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Alexis Singletary" <alexis@singletarylawoffice.com><br><b>To: </b>"WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv" <wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com><br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, January 17, 2016 6:34:45 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>[WSBAPT]  Invalid creditor's claim; reported on credit report<br><div><br></div><style><!--

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--></style><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue' data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: blue;">I have a surviving spouse who was an authorized user on a credit card for deceased husband.  Decedent was only card member; he opened the account before marriage but got a card for wife to use the account.  PR sent Notice to Creditors and creditor never filed a creditor’s claim.  Then at month 6 decided to start sending statements from collection company to PR.  We went ahead and did a formal Rejection and not just a letter telling them they messed up.  </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue' data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: blue;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue' data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: blue;">Now- creditor has filed bad data on surviving wife’s credit report even though it never attempted to request payment from spouse and she was not an account holder; of course negatively affecting wife’s credit.  The account was closed when husband died.  </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue' data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: blue;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue' data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: blue;">Any recourse for surviving spouse?  Creditor never alleged community debt and wife responsible since estate didn’t pay.  Can she only contest the debt with all credit reporting agencies to seek credit repair?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue' data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: blue;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue' data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: blue;">Thanks!</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue' data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: blue;">Alexis</span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1A1AEE" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; color: #1a1aee;">____________________________</span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1A1AEE" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; color: #1a1aee;">Alexis R. Singletary</span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1A1AEE" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; color: #1a1aee;">Attorney at Law</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1A1AEE" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; color: #1a1aee;">Singletary Law Office, PLLC</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1A1AEE" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; color: #1a1aee;">253.833.8855</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1A1AEE" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; color: #1a1aee;"><a href="http://www.singletarylawoffice.com/" target="_blank" data-mce-href="http://www.singletarylawoffice.com/">www.SingletaryLawOffice.com</a></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1A1AEE' data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1a1aee;"> </span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue' data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: blue;">This message is from an attorney, so it’s confidential and </span></i><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue' data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: blue;">may be protected by attorney-client privilege and/or the work-product doctrine.  </span></i><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue' data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: blue;">If you are not the intended recipient, it’s too late to stop reading this message, but you may not use it for any improper purpose. Huge Disclaimer available upon request.</span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue' data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: blue;"> </span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-fa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