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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Roger Hawkes, WSBA # 5173<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">19909 Ballinger Way NE<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Shoreline, WA 98155<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.hawkeslawfirm.com/"><span style="color:blue">www.hawkeslawfirm.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">206 367 5000<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Fax is 206 367 4005<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Andrew Hay [mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 07, 2016 2:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Difficult probate matter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Berlin Sans FB","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I have a gentleman whose wife died recently. There is no will and no community property agreement .<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Berlin Sans FB","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">He is left with a home with very little equity and a couple of small life insurance policies. The problem is that there is a substantial community liability that's been
reduced to a judgment that would eat up the small life insurance policies. So I am reluctant to start a probate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Berlin Sans FB","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I'm trying to figure out if he can benefit from the family support provisions. Are these applicable to only the period that the probate is pending? Or can I use RCW
11.54 to exempt up to hundred and 25 thousand dollars of assets from creditors even after the probate is closed?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Berlin Sans FB","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Is it a viable option to use the life insurance proceeds to pay down the mortgage on the home on the premise that he can protect up to $125,000 of equity as a homestead
exemption?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Berlin Sans FB","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Are there other viable options to preserve the life insurance proceeds (less than hundred thousand dollars) so that these funds are protected from the judgment creditors?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB","sans-serif";color:black">Andrew Hay<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB","sans-serif";color:black">Hay & Swann PLLC</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB","sans-serif";color:black">201 South 34th Street<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB","sans-serif";color:black">Tacoma, WA 98418<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB","sans-serif";color:black">Phone: (253) 272-2400<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Berlin Sans FB","sans-serif";color:black">Fax: (253) 267-8947<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Martin Silver<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 07, 2016 8:38 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] unsubscribe please<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">
<a href="mailto:gene@sbfirm.com" title="gene@sbfirm.com">Eugene D. Seligmann</a> <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"> Thursday, January 07, 2016 7:53
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">I am retiring from the Bar<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Seligmann & Flaherty, PLLC</span><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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