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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I raise lots of questions, Maureen gives the practical and helpful answers. :-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Eric<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Eric C. Nelsen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Maureen Wickert<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 07, 2016 10:22 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Drug testing requirement in Will<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Eric makes great points as usual.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">I have included in testamentary trusts for a beneficiary prone to drugs or alcohol with drug testing protocols, incentives for remaining clean, and authority for trustees to pay beneficiary's rehab or treatment
services and any counseling services. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Very truly yours,<br>
Maureen A. Wickert, Attorney at Law<br>
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WICKERT LAW OFFICE<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">"Eric Nelsen" <<a href="mailto:Eric@sayrelawoffices.com">Eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a>><br>
<b>To: </b>"WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv" <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, January 7, 2016 10:05:11 AM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [WSBAPT] Drug testing requirement in Will<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">I have discussed it before with clients, and I have a faint memory of dealing with a Will once that had such a provision.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">The essence of the problem from estate planning perspective is that the client wants a certain thing - for the daughter to be sober - and thinks that the drug test is a way
to ensure that. But if the drug test is simply a condition precedent and there is a fixed date, then the daughter may simply be able to plan to be clean for that date. It also is necessary to specify the test or tests that would be done - "drug test" is so
vague as to be useless. What method of testing? Urinalysis, blood test, hair, fingernails? What drugs?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Other questions - how many tests does she have to pass? When should the test take place? Does she get a second or third chance if she fails? Is the consequence truly "all or
nothing" and has the client truly contemplated the possibility of the daughter receiving nothing simply on the strength of a single failed drug test? Is this truly helping the daughter to be sober? Or simply punishing her if she is not?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">If I remember correctly, I think the last time I discussed this with a client who wanted it, we ended up setting up a trust instead.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Eric<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Eric C. Nelsen<br>
SAYRE LAW OFFICES, PLLC<br>
1320 University St<br>
Seattle WA 98101-2837<br>
phone 206-625-0092<br>
fax 206-625-9040<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] On Behalf Of Jennifer Johnson<br>
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 8:55 AM<br>
To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
Subject: [WSBAPT] Drug testing requirement in Will<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Hello all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">I have a client that would like to include a requirement in his will that his daughter be required to pass a drug test before she can inherit a certain amount of cash.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">I've never had the occasion to include this requirement in a will and I'm curious to hear what others think about this sort of provision or have experienced in probate when
this requirement comes up.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">I appreciate your input.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Jennifer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Jennifer M. Johnson<br>
Hanigan Law Office, PS<br>
360-795-3494<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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