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<DIV>This has been interesting.</DIV>
<DIV>I have a case where a named PR is declining to act as PR. I thought I
would use these statutes to add a delegation along with his declination to
serve, delegating who should be appointed. This discussion has been
delegation by an appointed PR.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>My first thought was that until one is appointed as Executor, you have
nothing to delegate. That is probably the case, however, that could lead a
named PR to be appointed and then he/she could delegate everything to be done by
another. This seems like form over substance, and it would be better just
to let him delegate a PR at the get go.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>However, I suppose that the form over substance argument prevails and I
should just have the, in this case a son, be appointed as administrator with
will annexed.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Anyone have a different take?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Josh</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=john@cairn-law.com
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 22, 2015 4:14 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [WSBAPT] PR Delegate Duties??</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Book Antiqua",serif; COLOR: #767171'>You
raise a good point about the statute. I don’t have any particular insight, but
it seems to me that the power to delegate duties with regard to estate property
(valuing assets for a non-pro rate distribution, for instance) would arguably be
a power that relates to the estate property.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Book Antiqua",serif; COLOR: #767171'>If
your client is happy, I would recommend that the delegator ratify the
delegatee’s actions to protect a later claim that the delegatee’s actions were
ultra vires.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B>From:</B> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com
[mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Paul
Neumiller<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 22, 2015 2:18 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'WSBA
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">John, thank for your input and
practical advice. I DO NOT represent either Co-PR but another interested
party in the probate. My fact pattern is much more complex. As it
turns out, my client actually prefers working with the designee (who is not the
Co-PR) instead of the original Co-PR (I learned of this after I posted my
question) so, as far as my client is concerned, “no harm, no
foul.”<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">As an intellectual endeavor
however, it is curious that I received such opposite answers. I must admit
that I am not convinced with the statute cited by Amy. RCW 11.68.090 says,
in part: “Any personal representative acting under nonintervention powers
may borrow money on the general credit of the estate and may mortgage, encumber,
lease, sell, exchange, convey, and otherwise have the same powers, and be
subject to the same limitations of liability, that a trustee has under chapters
11.98, 11.100, and 11.102 RCW <SPAN
style="BACKGROUND: yellow; mso-highlight: yellow">with regard to the assets of
the estate</SPAN>, both real and personal,….” Without knowing if there are
any reported cases on this point, I would argue that a trustee’s power to
delegate her duties under RCW 11.98.071 has nothing to do “with regard to the
assets of the estate” but rather to a trustee’s powers in general.
In other words, maybe the drafters of the statute wanted to give a PR the
ability to deal <I>with assets of an estate</I> in the same manner as the powers
of a trustee but NOT give the PR the same flexibility to delegate the PR’s
duties. As pointed out by another listserv member, the original PR is the
one identified on the Letters Testamentary. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>John Creahan<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 22, 2015 1:27
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Re: [WSBAPT] PR Delegate Duties??<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 6pt"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Book Antiqua",serif; COLOR: #767171'>Hi
Paul,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 6pt"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Book Antiqua",serif; COLOR: #767171'>There
has been a lot of discussion on this already, but I will weigh in as
well.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 6pt"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Book Antiqua",serif; COLOR: #767171'>From
a legal perspective, I doubt that one PR can delegate some or all of her duties
over the other PR’s objection. Assuming that they have been appointed with
non-intervention powers, I agree with Amy that RCW 11.98.071 is the correct
starting point, but that statute does not really appear to contemplate
delegation of duties by one of two fiduciaries.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 6pt"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Book Antiqua",serif; COLOR: #767171'>Having
said that, I don’t think that the legal question is the key to resolving this
issue. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 6pt"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Book Antiqua",serif; COLOR: #767171'>Do
you represent both PRs in their role as PRs?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 6pt"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Book Antiqua",serif; COLOR: #767171'>If
so, do you know to whom she has tentatively delegated her duties and why she
wants to do so? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 6pt"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Book Antiqua",serif; COLOR: #767171'>She
may have done so without really thinking the issue through or understanding what
it means to be a fiduciary. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 6pt"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Book Antiqua",serif; COLOR: #767171'>If
she simply does not want to participate, she can delegate to the other PR (see
RCW 11.98.016) or resign and allow her sibling to manage the estate. If she
doesn’t trust her sibling, things get more complex, but she could hire separate
counsel (either in her role as PR or as beneficiary) or she could try to
convince her co-PR that both should resign in favor of a third
party.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 6pt"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Book Antiqua",serif; COLOR: #767171'>Hope
this helps,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Take a look at RCW 11.98.071,
which allows a trustee to delegate, and RCW 11.68.090, which grants a
non-intervention PR the same powers as a trustee under RCW
11.98.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Listmates: First time situation for me.
Co-Personal Representatives are nominated by Will and appointed by the
court. The Co-Personal Representatives are siblings and sole beneficiaries
under the Will. I am now told that one of the Co-Personal Representatives
has “appointed someone to act on her behalf when she is out of the
Country.” I question whether any act taken by the extra person is
valid.<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>A niggling little thought at the back of my head says that
“fiduciaries can’t delegate their duties.” I imagine that the Co-PR could
appointed someone to act on her behalf while wearing her hat as a
<I>beneficiary</I> but not while wearing her hat as the <I>co-PR</I>.
Anyone have this come up and reached any conclusions? <o:p></o:p></P>
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